You gave me the worst dumbnet evil AI scenario. It's going to live rent-free in my head. I can't believe you've done this. /s
IzyaKatzmann
joined 2 years ago
Wait why would there be litter boxes in classrooms? Why would they be allowed cats? Do people think that's how kids are getting
That wouldn't even be a good way to do it.potential trigger i think
'feminized'?
This comment too, I hope it makes or helps me read Discipline and Punish. The only exposure I had to Foucault confused me and made me hurt myself in confusion so I decided to stay away...
What you wrote made it sound really interesting, here's hopin' I can read it sooner rather than later!
Second comment of yours I saved in this thread, keep up the good postin' cde!
I saved this comment and I want to comment so I can remember it and like be more likely to see it later. I think the comedic framing & cadence were actually really good (even if the subject matter is uh less than pleasant)
Oh I also wanted to add that it was really validating when you said you got what I was trying to say. I appreciate it and your apology (which I don't find necessary and will accept as I concede you have a better idea of what you are apologizing for) and want to say it made my good day which became bad near the end decent. Yeah, not good, still better than before.
Thanks for the response. I'm sorry you had a rough week, I'd think it would make having to engage with someone who was ignorant and made the errors I made even more unpleasant. I don't care if I didn't know or couldn't know.
If I couldn't know I still think I can act in a way that doesn't misgender or otherwise be vague and antagonistic. And if I can't do that I'd really rather just not say anything if I can. I don't think what I said has any value anymore.
I mean I learned from it and I don't know what it meant to other people. Other people did let me know how what I did was wrong and can be easily avoided. From what others said though, which is what I use because I genuinely don't know how they feel or think, what I wrote wasn't helpful and the comment did not need to be made which I, like right now not before, also think was inappropriate and unnecessary.
Thanks again for your response, sharing a bit about yourself, and being willing to try again. I don't have anything else to say besides thanks. Honestly I'm now afraid of saying anything or like giving details of what I alluded to in my initial and rightly removed comment.
I'm so afraid that I'll say something to hurt people who are among the last I'd like to hurt. I'm obviously a bit afraid of something hurtful being said to me, I can't say I can take it, only that I've suffered enough to feel comfortable that's something I am able to experience. What is more suffering really? If I welcome it, nothing changes. If I do my best to get rid of it, it gets worse. It doesn't make sense to me and I can't figure it out. Or at least I haven't been able to for at least more than some 18 odd years.
I did not know who Julia was, I read several popular pieces by her. Didn't engage with her books, but skimmed her PhD thesis at University of Kansas (which deadnames her). It was the kind of work that wouldn't be appreciated I think by those outside the field (biology is my subject of choice and background) and is not glamorous, but it is of the kind of work that enables others to get the flashy stuff done. It's the in-between 'plumbing' that people might look down on, but use all the same. There's good respect there, it's the equivalent of public service for 'omic work in the model organism which was her target.
I did my homework, I'm still trying to learn, it's only; I don't want to keep hurting people while I'm doing it.
Sorry for the essay. I do hope I can engage positively with you in the future. You seem to be considerate and thoughtful.
I'm sorry I very much do not agree and respect your points and do not accept invocation of "objectively true" to stand in for an argument or evidence which would indicate what you stated is or approaches being objective. You can see the long comments I wrote right before this. I will be sleeping soon and will not respond to the content of what you wrote. I'm sorry for that, I will let what you said marinate and consider it while I finish reading Skinner's work.
Yeah you are completely write. That was severely inappropriate and irresponsible, not only in itself, also in the comm I am in with the audience I am in who always are subject to more abuse than those who are not like them. I see it was not in good faith, it was loaded, and it poisoned the well. I had believed in error I was creating a bound of time and keeping the subject sufficiently abstract while referring ti what I believed to be a real phenomena (one which I experienced and recall; which others may not or will not have and respecting their experiences would entail not making such sweeping bad-faith statements) to preclude the subject and focus on the object. I see now that it was wrong and I apologize. I'm really sorry I hope I didn't cause harm or too much harm at the very least.
I will use trans comrades from now on now that you have told me. I have seen:
trigger warning, unseparated label
'transfolk' and believed it to be similar to 'kinfolk' which to my understanding is a broader or analogous capsulation of the term 'otherkin' which would include systems and alters
I do not think you understood the point I brought up. It was miscommunicated. If you believe you did understand and I don't know or have not successfully argued my own point, I'm afraid I cannot accept that wholly on faith and would appreciate an argument or points that indicate what you say is true. From my understanding of my point, unless I have little to no clue, it stands on its own though poorly and erroneously argued. If you insistent that is not the case, I think I might accuse you of invalidation and would say I hope you could try to accept that when I say I gave a point I really did, and that you do not know better than me what is in my own head and what points have been fashioned by my personal experience.
You are right, it is weird, I'd say from other's comments it's disrespectful and I did not do the bare minimum and I am actually being tolerated rather well given my mistakes and errors.
I do not appreciate you using the phrase "talk for an hour". I already mentioned why this is particularly hurtful in the comment I responded to before this on in this thread, and really do not want to repeat or have to explain myself again why this is hurtful specifically to me.
I do not think you fairly represented my point, you are of course well within your right to disagree. I won't elaborate because I have already indicated that I cannot communicate effectively and do not feel comfortable writing more when ai have not fully digested criticisms and advice. It's exhausting having to code myself. For this topic it would be too much for me at the moment. Then I simply won't write anything to prevent the likely chance I will again misgender, write too much, miscommunicate, use a harmful label, and whatever else I did wrong or mistakenly.
I'm really sorry, you're completely right about finding her pronouns. I doubt you'd believe it as I've already soured myself with the mistakes I made. I was nervous and afraid and thought I would mess up anyways. I don't believe you would understand unless you were willing to empathize with me, which is a big ask after what I did wrong. I'll do my best to properly gender folks.
I think the tone you used is completely appropriate. Stating it is awful without, to your perception, giving an argument or substance is indeed inappropriate and disrespectful of Julia's work.
I very much don't appreciate the terms you used. I don't think it's my place to ask you to take it back or apologize. I do want to make it known so hopefully other people reading it can be more sensitive to me. I really hate having to identify myself with a laundry list of conditions to be taken seriously or spoken to with respect. I use vague language because I am questioning. This paragraph was only written because I don't know how else you might care about the content of what I write; you can see I post in POC and I have mentioned being in the area of neurodiverse (I am questioning there to). Do not make me elaborate further please.
I don't like that you used "word salad". I don't know why you used it, if it's because I wrote a lot and there was no substance or the negative highly outweighed the positive, I accept it and I still do not appreciate that. I don't think it's a word salad at all. My entire life I've been told I speak or write too much. Maybe everyone except my wife and therapist and psychologist and psychiatrist is right? No, I no longer accept that, I can validate myself and insist that there was good content there and you were unable to understand it. I must not have communicated it well or in a way amenable to you and others who have commented. I already made a severe mistake in misgendering (I wanted to say; I was not referring to Julia with the subjects I used in my sentences; another example of myself not communicating clearly and you misunderstanding as a result, again I apologize, I won't invalidate your experience and say that what you felt was wrong or incorrect, I can be dialectical and accept both) the author of the piece as you and I think one other commenter pointed out.
I don't appreciate the label "f****** brain genius" and reject it. If you want to engage further I request you do not use that term or similar terms with me and give me a modicum of respect now that I have had a chance to explain myself. Not vindicate, or 'let-myself-off-the-hook', I accept your criticisms and I will not do that thing HR does "we hear your concerns and accept them " and proceed to do nothing of the sort. I will now be better with properly gendering people and searching for a person's appropriate pronouns and when I don't know or use the wrong ones, to refrain from misgendering so many times. As well to make it clear when I changed the subject from an individual to a broader and more abstract (and still valid) subject.
I want to engage with the content of what you said that doesn't have to do with my mistakes and grievances. I do not know if it is worth your time. I have to sleep soon as it's past midnight. If you won't treat me with respect and won't refrain from hurtful language then I would kindly ask you to disengage, or I can if you like, since I made the initial transgression. I'm pretty sure I've poisoned the well for any further discussion of my initial points & thesis. Or, you can report me to a mod; as my behaviour here was inappropriate and I am unwelcome. Or in the case you continue and do not disengage, I can report you to prevent more hurtful language.
You have every right to feel the way you do. I do not have to have a continued (i.e. further discussion with several responses and a long thread) hurtful and harmful labelling after I have indicated explicitly I do not like it and I request you do not use the aforementioned labels.
I like using been, I listened to a podcast where a linguist explained how versatile it was. If you shorten it that means it like happened in the past and it's continuing to happen and you say it with more like emphasis, maybe like more plosive like a 'P':
Like you are doing something now or started recently if you say it kinda neutral:
Maybe like sarcastically or when you lengthen it: