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Again, we can talk about the terrible shit America has done and still does. I won't deny it. Yes murder is bad. Okay? That's not what you're here arguing though. You wanna try again, no sweat. I'll listen. Will you?

"Anything bad China has done, America has too" is what you said. That is not just factually wrong, it's childish and ignorant and above all lazy. You can't even be arsed to be more than nominally aware of things.

I was very clear about this already, so that you want to keep arguing tells me you're not reading my replies at all or they won't matter anyway, you'll just pound your fists and stomp your feet. Fine. Do that. It's alright. Won't help you, won't get you any closer to a better world, but you'll feel better for a half second. Neat yeah?

I'm gonna point out that it is only complex to not be white. It is not complex to be white. That's a simple determination white society makes, that's all the complexity there is. That determination.

Irish people weren't white, then they were.

Italian people weren't white, then they were.

Latino people weren't white, then they were. They're getting there. See my other comment.

Jews still aren't "white". They're "Jews". Secular Jews get to be white though. "The good ones", they'll say. Hrm.

There's no group mastering over white people making them play by some ever-changing set of made up rules. That's what it is to be not white in America. Literacy tests, citizenship tests, background tests, sundown towns, don't look a white woman in the eye, mind your manners, etc etc etc etc etc etc etc. Those are all things done to minorities that have never been done to white people.

"White" is not a complex thing. Full disclosure, I'm a white guy. First generation Italian American, my dad came off a boat at Ellis Island and his family had to cross America all the way to California to find people who treated them as equals. Italians, they're as complex as Germans and the Dutch. But white? White isn't complex.

Good moment to point out that "white" is an ever-changing target that constantly moves as needed by the white people in power. Remember "one drop" was their rule. There's no such thing as "white".

Fun fact that demonstrates the point: depending on your locale you may already be seeing this happen, but Latinos are about twenty years away from being considered defacto "white people". And it's not accidental. It's a coordinated effort to get hold of a rising voting bloc that's historically very conservative.

If you live in California you might already recognize the difference between Norteno and Sureno (speaking colloquially, not referring to the gangs using those words as their names). If you've been paying attention to folks like Enrique Tarrio, Raphael Ted Cruz, and George "This is My Name This Month" Santos, you'd see it happening elsewhere too.

Latinos who don't embrace their Latino culture while they're here in America are being indoctrinated the same way they did the Irish and Italians before them. Remember neither of those groups were "white" when they first arrived in America either. The inner circle already accepted them as White People, they're just working on their adherents now. Ask yourself why so many second generation Mexican-American immigrants are hesitant to call themselves Mexican. Nope, they'll use Latino though. They've internalized that word as what the white people mean by it, it's a dirty word in that context.

And this is the effect of culturally ingrained racism. We saw it with Irish, Italians, we see it with Black Americans, and we see it with Mexican Americans too. The patterns are right there and obvious.

The tactic also violates Facebook’s user policy, which requires people to use their real names, as the platform has told law enforcement agencies on multiple occasions.

What a meaningless and ridiculous thing to highlight. This article feels like a joke, honestly. Y'all ever heard of Snowden? Or the US PATRIOT Act?

Shit, just look at the funding page. These people aren't your friends.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brennan_Center_for_Justice

Had the same thought. Got sidetracked sniffing pens.

Jokes aside, any of y'all remember the scented markers for kids? Holy shit talk about grooming children for addictions. Whole classrooms of kids just sniffing chemical markers. The gas station rose vial of the kindergarten.

Ah yes, rather than address your inconsistent arguments, call me a racist. Clever one you are, why didn't I think of that?

Jokes aside you can be mad all you like, you're still wrong. We can talk about the awful shit America does and has done, but it won't be the same as what China has done.

Enjoy your second year of community college.

That's a highly generalized take that doesn't hold water at all. The American government sucks but they're not operating organ farms in concentration camps targeting religions, they're not redrawing their maps to include parts of neighboring nations like Mexico and Canada, they're not funding North Korea as the DPRK launches missiles over South Korea and Japan, they don't have social credit scores, they don't systematically harass and threaten their own citizens abroad..

We can keep going if you want. And we can talk about the terrible shit America does too.

But "these two entities are both bad and therefore they do the same exact things" is fucking dumb, naive, myopic, childish, and a bunch of other pejoratives I could think of. Grow up.

Nintendo just waiting for the thing to go on sale to drop their lawsuits.

Nah. I still disagree. "Casual racism against Chinese people" has been a mainstay of America since the railroads were built. Probably before.

I mean Bugs Bunny comes to mind, what more casually racist and beloved character is there?

Those guys were all using coded language for decades. Many white kids pick up on that language and adopted it. All while Trump was donating to the Clintons and well before too.

The danger in attributing this all to Trump is that Trump is going to die one day, fascism in America won't die with him.

Tony Hawks Pro Skater wants you to remember it. The game that launched an entire music genre into the mainstream.

This is far, far from a first.

His fascism and bigotry aren't spilling over anywhere, Trump represents a mean streak in society that's dominated by wealth, eg, fascism. It's everywhere already, that's why non-Americans are focusing on Trump. You'll note that happens in anywhere defined by "Western society". Australia included. Hell, Qanon's founder didn't live in America.

I'm not saying any of this is good or right, but don't pretend your nation's fascists will slow down because of Trump. They won't. They were there already.

The same thing was happening back before WWII. Fascists existed in America before the war. They existed here after too. And Canada. And Australia, etc.

Just goes to show, cops see cops as just badges and guns. That's the problem.