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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You like to sit in the middle of the alley? I prefer a seat personally...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Would I be allowed to build my own house? If so, would I be allowed to sell it? If so, am I forced to sell it at "labour value" or can I choose freely (that would be market value)?

Pricing it at "labour value" would also mean if I'm a bad builder and take a huge amount of time to build it, I'm entitled to more money, right? Or if there were huge amounts of people wanting to move into a home because they need one, is the faster builder payed at best the same as a slow builder that finishes their house 1 year later when nobody needs it anymore?

Market value means that people pay whatever it is worth to them (or don't buy it). Now, you may argue that surviving is worth indefinite money to a person so let's assume that we have some very basic accomodation provided by the state if needed.

About that last paragraph: Unequal does not necessarily mean unfair. If I (literally) threw away all my money and then you started looking at only the physical outcome (e.g. the distribution of wealth) without it's backstory, then you may also come to the conclusion that it's unfair that I don't have any money. But the way of acquirement does matter. Not just the end result. Or is it unfair that I don't have any money after the hypothetical scenario?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not relevant (or true) is the fact that you think I sound like a twat while saying it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Lmao then you might aswell say "Today is my birthday 30th" or "This is the time third that I've tried this".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

But then your criticism of our capitalist system would also apply to your proposed socialism. You said that it "sucked" that under capitalism, people dont work out of their free will but rather because society demands it from them if they want food/shelter/etc.

Socialism is about the proper and fair distribution of wealth on the basis of labor, not property rights.

You may find other things fair than I do but I think it's fair that with my wealth I can choose to e.g. lend it to somebody and get back more in return (if both parties agree). I think it's fair that I own the means of production if I created them. I think it's fair that I can sell them to somebody and subsequently that someone can buy them from me (and own them).

Everyone has a different concept on what is fair and what isn't. It was interesting hearing your opinion on this though. You have really given me some great insights and I can see where you're coming from, even though I don't always agree.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (6 children)

You can also say the "24th of January".

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (2 children)

There is a split in gen Z: The ones who didnt use a computer growing up and those that did have one (and also the time to mess around with it). But I feel like you cant group them together.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

Except gen Z didn't grow up with just an iPad, at least not the majority. A good amount of people had (or have) access to a laptop or family computer. Thats why I say that the gap has just gotten wider. Some people, eg. the ones that just had an iPad and all they ever did was social media and mobile games - sure, they know very little about computers. But the ones that did use computers (and thats not a small amount) do really know how to use it - which is not limited to the more or less office-focused skills of older generations.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I dont think this is the case. I feel like there just is a much wider gap because some people grow up without a computer (they may have one but not see the use of it) and others do. I bet you'd be surprised both at how non-tech-savvy and at how tech-savvy some genZ-ers are.

I have had people asking me for help because their "keyboard was capitalizing everything" (caps lock was on) or being amazed by touch typing. But there are also many people who are (at least somewhat) tech-savvy and it's not so few people either.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Half a McDonalds-M

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It goes DAY MONTH YEAR not MONTH DAY YEAR

The meme also uses "Day Month Year", whats the issue?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I know people meme around about it but have you actually experienced it yourself? As an Arch user myself, can't confirm.

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