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Give me a quote. I did not.

This is true

Not true, it's been available on Fdroid for quite some time now. And it doesn't need play services for the notifications to work either.

No I did not and it does not matter whether they compare.

move the goalposts internationally to muddy the argument

I've also realized this (my views on this have been changing while discussing this) and apologize fir that. To explain where I'm coming from:

I fit into the "target" demographic she is referencing. I realize this is a post referring to the USA but I have noticed the polarizing mindset that this portrays also come up, with increasing frequency, here where I live (in Europe). Criticism of the Republican party and specific methodologies are projected onto the label "conservative", which is then also labeled bad. Posts such as these are written in such a genelarized way that they manage to polarize people from outside of the US too and it is, in my opinion, not obvious that this is referring to the Republican Party's methodology or their specific demands, rather than their general conservative beliefs.

In general, I don't agree with these posts trying to make people feel bad for their political opinion or feel peer-pressured (she makes it seem like the whole generation is expected to be non-conservative and those who are are weird outsiders). I find them highly manipulative and obviously polarizing.

Does the fact that we think even "regular" conservatives have shitty beliefs make you feel better?

I could already imagine what you think of their ideology. The problem I have is with labeling a general political orientation as illegitimate.

Do conservatives want to fund public services?

They probably don't want to increase their funds. But yeah, public services exist for a reason. How many funds they should get it a debate to be had.

Do they want to reduce police funding?

Probably not (?), though would you mind explaining what the whole police defunding demands are about? Is it just currently viewed as a waste of money or what?

Do they want to reduce inequity and tax the rich?

They probably dont want to tax the rich more than they currently do, but yeah they would AFAIK still tax them (and tax them more than normal people). Inequality is a moral-based question again. You may find it fair if everyone has the same amount of money, someone else might find it fair that you get more money the more you earn, etc.

Thanks, this clears things up for me

"I never said it was but it totally was!" So no to that as well.

To make sure you can't interpret this the wrong way:

• I did not claim that having the right to drop a baby was comparable to having the right to abort
• However, it is completely irrelevant how comparable they are because this nontheless clearly shows that your absolute claim of "total choice" is false.

To sum it up for you:

• The dropping example refutes your claim about total control
• You said it isn't comparable
• I agreed and pointed out that I never claimed it to be. However, it still refutes your fucking claim. The whole point was for it to be non-controversial (I hope we agree dropping a baby is not your right) so we can both agree that you do not have total control, which you had previously implied.

• What's a SCOTUS appointment if you dont mind me asking?

• Seems like a questionable system though, right? Im vaguely familar on how partys in the US can appoint judges for life as soon as others leave...

• Isn't this favorable appointing of judges done on both sides, depnding on the governing patty (aka Democrats and Republicans) or what is the scandal about what happened under Trump?

We aren't talking about Russian elections

Yeah but you said that doubting the validity of elections is not an opinion. We weren't talking about any country's elections specifically.

stop acting like "you don't have the right to drop a baby onto the floor!" is remotely in the ballpark of an apt comparison

I never claimed it to be but dont you realize that it refutes your claim that one should have "total" control over one's body? This showd that its a matter of where you draw the line. Its not black and white. Can you kill a baby after it was born? Two minutes before? A month before? 6 months before?

One country could have a “conservative” ideology that’s considered entirely “liberal” by another country.

... which is why find these generalized statements on political orientations stupid. At least the girl in the post could have said "Republican" or sth.

Except they did. “The rights” in the U.S. attempted to overthrow the duly elected president

No, it's not "the rights" who did that. It was a group of people from the right side of the spectrum, presumably the more extreme ones who did that. You can't generalize every condervative person into that group.

(Although the fact that it was actually Trump who called for the attack is highly problematic, even more so the fact that he now is again up as a candidate elected by his party).