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It works via my VPN. Maybe switch it to a different location?

Did a bit of a deep dive a few years ago on this topic, there are hundreds of forever chemicals everywhere that Corps either do not share their studies on them, or have not been fully studied in-depth as far as related medium or long term health issues or for safety. So they will lie my omission. A study might read like, "As far as research completed, (next to 0) we have found no likely known ('cause they didn't look hard enough, or for long enough because it is expensive) health risks associated with compound XYZ at minimal or reasonable human exposure." Well, they may not be "lying" if they barely looked, right? Albeit sometimes they will lie, anyways.

It is quite shocking but makes sense when you think some Corps --and the top people within them-- can or will behave like psychopaths in their desire for profit.

They may only do serious studies if people/workers start developing illnesses or cancer or what not. And this is mostly to figure out their prospects on legal liability, not out the kindness of their hearts. Obviously.

For example:

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news-release/epa-dupont-settle-and-delay-court-case-over-human-pollution

"The penalty DuPont will reportedly pay for covering up its pollution of newborn American babies with the cancer-causing Teflon chemical will likely be $15 million. This sum amounts to just 8 percent of the maximum allowable fine.

On April 28, Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrative Law Judge Barbara A. Gunning granted EPA and DuPont until August 15 to formally announce their deal. DuPont's indestructible, toxic Teflon chemical is in the blood of over 95 percent of Americans."

People should be outraged. But the average American is completely out of the loop and in the dark. Their answer when confronted as to why most Americans have Teflon chemicals in their blood was originally that they saw no side effects with that, so too bad, GTFO. No liability on their side, until workers started developing health issues.

Was in the market for a new phone and was thinking of getting the latest Pine phone, and upon research, I found that like others have stated, it is more of a piece of kit to tinker with and not a daily driver. The OS is still being baked and at the current rate it might take a few years before it is as responsive and as useful as Android is day in, and day out. There is just no contest. Which was a bit disappointing as I actually though the OS was far more developed.

I do hope that progress is made, but, if you need a phone that works well, then stick with Android for now. Hardware on latest Pine is better than on the first phone but still Mid, at best, and it is not cheap for the hardware you get.

Are there any other sources that you may know about this? This is a huge claim and one that we would benefit to have more of, as far as it can be backed up from multiple sources.

Anyone have say, video of this?

Edit: Literally, why am I getting downvoted? Because I ask for extra proof for my own sake, which is the reasonable thing to do? Relax. No wonder some people think that some on our side are crazy.

Thanks to the kind poster who took my question seriously and provide links. Thank you.

Nice.

We Went to Greenland to Ask About a Trump Takeover - POLITICO

"U.S. interest in Greenland remained the stuff of private, long-range government planning until news broke in August 2019 that Trump had become preoccupied with the idea of buying the island.

The idea reportedly sprang from a conversation with Estée Lauder heir Ronald Lauder, president of the World Jewish Congress, though a person close to Lauder said that notion of an outright purchase originated elsewhere. “Lauder never said to buy Greenland,” said the person, who was granted anonymity to discuss a private conversation. Instead, the person said, Lauder merely told Trump it was “in our interest to engage more, have deeper ties.”"

Thought we discovered why this was the case, pesticides.

Fair take.

Thanks for the link. We may be slightly speaking past each other. On one hand, the link you sent is of course, correct. I had read that before and is not that I did not believe that the GDPR would include it, more so on not fully trusting 23andMe to comply.

What you may be overlooking is that in the real world, possible buyers will have access to data as part of any Due Diligence terms, whether they purchase or not. In a perfect world it should not change things but in practice it can, or does. Apparently, that bit I quoted earlier was a very recent update to their T&Cs, as they are protecting themselves for any future lawsuits. Also, I just do not trust 23andMe to have your best interest at heart and to fully comply with privacy issues at the current time, either due to willful BS or mistake. It might just not be a priority. The whole thing could collapse tomorrow, but they are still full on taking people's money. Any promise of compliance are just words at this point. I have known enough large companies collapse to see this as no different. GDPR or not. On a privacy concern, is not as if they asked everyone who is blood related for any consent, either.

This was releseased not to long ago, so the USA Feds are not really confident, either:

oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/attorney-general-bonta-urgently-issues-consumer-alert-23andme-customers

ag.ny.gov/press-release/2025/attorney-general-james-urges-23andme-customers-contact-company-delete

But on paper, I agree that Europeans seem to have sturdier protections. Albeit Americans may have more legal options. Cheers and hope they fully delete your data without any BS.

Safest thing that would actually work is to take out the battery. ;-)

Not on electric cars. LOL

Not sure if it is a joke.

But according to the legalese of some manufacfurers, just being inside the car is a form of you giving consent.

You would have to disable all radios and receivers, GPS, never take your car for maintenance and never connect your car's systems to anything and never connect your phone or peripherals to it. As your phone will send car data to the manufacturers. Disable or break all cameras. And this is assuming they even respect you opting out. Apparently, most people are so unaware of the data collecting being such a huge thing that some manufacturers do not even really disable what you tell them to disable, or by using the car or an option in the car, you give them permission to enable them again. LOL Point is that you can't or most people won't do any of these things and car makers won't stop until maybe they get sued.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2024/03/how-figure-out-what-your-car-knows-about-you-and-opt-out-sharing-when-you-can

Yup.

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/