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[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Some of you seem to have trouble staying on topic. This was a discussion on why the Orthodox don't like the IDF. If you'd like to discuss other issues, make a new post and I'll see you there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago (9 children)

It's funny how that's always the response. Obviously it has nothing to do with the well known bastion of free thought journalism at checks notes Black Agenda Report. How dare I question their credibility when they're so well known... Lol

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (11 children)

Lemmy, introducing you to the weirdest sources of biased "information".

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Then you're not actually paying attention to what is happening. Just whatever headline pops up when you happen to be watching.

The Orthodox community isn't an army, so the crimes they commit would never be labeled as war crimes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Without prior consent of course.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (14 children)

It's a big mixed bag, but a few key reasons are:

  • The IDF represent an armed faction of the secular Jews of Israel. They will make a distinction of Israelis and Israelites, with the Orthodox being the latter. Before the Romans, there were the states of Israel (Tel Aviv) and Judea (Jerusalem), so that separation continues in their mind.
  • If their kids were conscripted, they fear the secular influences upon them and it is a driving factor in their opposition to conscription.
  • Surprisingly, there are factions of Orthodox who don't believe the state of Israel should exist, at least until the Messiah returns. So they oppose the armed faction of the illegitimate state.

There is so much I can't even begin to explain, and I'm sure some Israelis would even have corrections from what I learned over there. The Orthodox live a decent lifestyle which is 100% paid for by the Secular community, so they can spend their days studying and causing trouble for others. When you hear about armed groups shooting at Palestinians and burning down homes, you're making a safe bet if you assume they're Orthodox.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago

Yeah, you have to view it like stoning. One good rock to an unprotected head is all it takes to turn the lights off.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (17 children)

It doesn't help that the ultra-religious, which makes up 99% of settlers, hate the IDF almost as much as Palestinians. The fact they weren't throwing rocks at the troops surprised me the most.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm sure RT had a completely unbiased summary of the pay walled piece. Good journalism all around.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Honestly could be the Middle East at this point. They have plenty of firearms and their fondness for fastfood has not gone well.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

To bad this outlet skews hard in the bias sauce. Gotta see if it's backed up by someone more neutral.

Edit: All reports from credible outlets rely on this particular report, so make what you will of it.

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