EchoSpire

What's your point? In relation to this conversation what are you trying to say? I don't disagree with you, but why are you bringing it up now, in this discussion?

I’m not saying it’s not fascism. I agree with you. But comparing us to Germany isn’t going to get anyone else to pay attention who isn’t already paying attention. Do you know what the oversimplified and stupid response to your comparison will be? “They’re not being antisemitic.”

People hear “Nazi Germany” and just think about the Holocaust in a gross oversimplification. They don’t see that the new "Jew" is just the liberal, the "communist-terrorist," the "mentally ill." There is no one “other” this time. There doesn’t really need to be, though.

If you want to engage people, the collapse of the USSR is another historical parallel we are mirroring, not the collapse itself, but the takeover of power by oligarchs and state actors right after. We are quickly heading toward that point.

These fascists are going to crash the world economy. What that means, I don’t know. Maybe just a new digital currency, maybe a new military-industrial complex, but when our economy fails, it will play out like the economic capture of the Russian government after the fall of the USSR.

The fascists want this. This is some Yeltsin shit, man. It’s German-Russian fusion, fascism on the rise.

No they don't. They just have to adopt a culture of euthanasia. I don't say that to be cruel or indifferent. I assume state assisted programs are in a lot of countries' futures assuming they can stomach it. It's not something I'm advocating for. I just think the rich are cold enough to push it to try to fix the problem.

My thinking is too many people are comparing us to Germany and not enough people are thinking about the colapse of the USSR. This doesn't look like consolidation of power to me. This looks like turning off all the pressure values so they can point and say "look how corrupt and broken everything is!" when it all explodes. It's not Hitler, Its some fusion of Putin tatics. People are going to die. This is the gas for a worldwide crisis.

kinda looks like he's wearing christmas wrapping paper.

Well, according to my made up facts 100% of corporate sponsored polls are bullshit. It's too bad 100% of people don't believe that.

Thank you! I thought I was crazy

Yup. I imagine this is exactly what Putin, China, and the rich bilionaires want. I think they're playing at something the the fall of the USSR but with more of a 'controlled demolition' vibe. Oh, we'll all still get fucked while they power grab.

Now is not the time to fight among ourselves. We are entering a period that will truly be US vs THEM. We will, I suppose, Always be divided as the forces the be will insure we stay that way. Isolated. Tribal. Silenced eventually maybe. But I don’t care if you didn’t vote for Harris. I only care that you didn’t vote for Trump or a Republican. I hope that you voted.

It was almost inevitable that we got here. I’m reminded of that stupid video that came out right after 2020 of a Gen Z kid saying they saved democracy being spliced with Harris calling them dumb. That’s one thing of countless others. GENERATIONS of effort from powerful rich people to take control from us. They studied the rise and fall of nations and used it to conquer us. They watched the dystopian scifi movies and dreamed that it was their future.

I can’t be angry at someone who agrees with me in most ideological ways but decided to jump from the titanic in a different direction than myself. The country is sick. Believe me when I say they will never let us organize.

I mourn for our country. I mourn for what is to come.

Lost it's job to AI

I remember watching documentaries about Hungary on YouTube back around 2010-2012. We were all worried then that it would happen here. Hungary and (Russia) and how they treated political rivals. That's when I started voting consistently. Not that it mattered. I used to point to Hungary as an example of what could happen here. The Daily show even talked about them when Trump first came to power in 2016. It was always there but we were always looking elsewhere.

Hungary is much smaller than the US though, even if it is mostly empty, like Russia.