I agree completely. I'm lucky to have a partner that agrees
DogWater
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You could've just said dead in the context of the floods
Not disagreeing that meat is bad for the environment, but I think not having kids is probably way above cutting out meat.
Right they don't like it because I'm not being cordial about it all, but people are dying because of this.
There are so many examples. All the people who just died in that Texas flood could have had a chance if Trump didn't fire a ton of people from the national weather service. There's literally a vacancy for someone who would have been able to spread the warnings that came out overnight prior to the flood.
Sorry if it hurts feelings. But someone has to hold these people's feet to the fire. Them acting like they're better than maga voters when they helped Donald Trump into the office is ridiculous.
Every time I have this discussion the people that I'm arguing with believe that I am a regular Democrat or a liberal or something. It's always funny cuz they think they're arguing against somebody who ideologically believes differently from them. But I don't, I have the same beliefs as them.
It doesn't even matter if I tell them Palestinian American politicians we're voting for Kamala.
They still tell me I'm wrong. The ego can't face the fact that maybe they did something wrong. I know this because I voted 3rd party in 2016 over the Bernie scandal during the primary. I was them. I did this before and this time it's so much worse.
Please point out the straw man lmao
If your parents picked the restaurant you're going to eat at as a kid all you can do is pick the meal.
Biden was changed out for Kamala and that wasn't good enough for a portion of the Democratic Party electorate because both candidates support the Israeli genocide.
Yeah that's true, and either one of them would've responded better to protests, criticisms, and pressure better than Trump had they been elected. Lol
If you were paying attention before the election this should come as no surprise.
It's not surprising, it's heartbreaking that American voters chose more death rather than less death.
Your strawman arguments and insults do not change the ground reality. Your argument is the same as theirs: "if my political opponents would have acted differently then fascism wouldn't have taken over." This is a childish way to look at politics; political factions and voters have never behaved this way.
That is reductive and not true. False equivalency throughout your statement. My argument is distinct from theirs. Your are choosing to ignore all the reasons why it's different that I have already explained. If you truly believe they are the same and not arguing in bad faith here then you don't have a grasp of logic.
The rage is because voters don't do what they should do. Everyone who isn't a Nazi should've been adult enough to put their bullshit aside and stop 47 from happening and then go back to fighting to push us further left....but they wouldn't do it. And it's inexcusable.
Muslim leaders in Arizona told their voter bases to vote Kamala.
Ruwa Romman even called people out who were trying to say the same shit I'm seeing in here virtue signalers. She's a palestinian democrat in Georgia who was subbed by the DNC.
Your impotant rage does not align with the fact that, even if all third party voters went for Kamala, she still would have lost.
Debatable.
She lost key swing states by thin margins. 300,000 votes in the right places and the election flips.
you have to count non voters as well as 3rd party protest voters. That number is unknowable with any certainty. What is knowable is that there were taken away from her by people who claim to care but actually chose violence.
20 million registered voters didn't vote.
And if 1.5% of them had voted it could have flipped the election. 1 person out of 67 non voters stepping up could've flipped it in the best case scenario.
Don't you see that the uncommitted movement has the exact same argument?
No they don't have the same argument. Biden was changed out for Kamala and that still wasn't good enough. She has a better voting record than Bernie in the Senate.
Moreover, we have data on Kamala and trump in the Whitehouse. No one can say they didn't know it would be like this.
When push comes to shove you don't vote for someone who pushes through a 168 billion dollar gestappo budget. It's not the same fucking thing. You vote for someone who responds to criticism not revels in the chaos and cruelty. Jesus Christ you people are insane.
ID RATHER KILL PEOPLE THAN COMPROMISE
fucking moron
They told you repeatedly, over and over, clearly, for over a year, that running a Democratic candidate who supports the ongoing genocide will drastically reduce turnout in the Democrat base.
Not me, I'm a Bernie camp voter, zohran fan, etc. I just have a soul. Conceding to the Democrats to keep the worst president we've ever had out of office for a 2nd term is an easy choice.
The voting results show that they were right.
Yeah, the point isnt about who they selected it's about who YOU VOTED FOR.
You can try to self-soothe by saying "I told you so", yet they can do the exact same thing.
No they can't, see above.
This accomplishes nothing except further factionalization of the Democrat vote.
No one who was willing to "protest" during this election is actually a good person. They can just put their red hats on. They are playing for the selfish team so put on the uniform.
Your focus on infighting is misplaced at a time when we need to be building coalition to fight Trump and fascism.
That's fucking rich considering we just had a FUCKING ELECTION WHERE WE COULDVE DONE EXACTLY THAT
You literally did vote for this if you abstained from this past election. How about you help punch right instead of being a fucking pussy.
You're fucking dispicable and selfish. Worse than a red voter because you claim to care about other people. Fuck you. Virtue signaling garbage.
Florida lawmakers sound alarm over plans ‘to send pregnant women & children’ to ‘Alligator Alcatraz’
Yeah I can't tell on this one either
Just go directly to blaming the people who gleefully voted for it. Everything else is just infighting and stupid.
No it's not. There is a huge difference.
Republicans wanted this so they voted for it. You don't have to tell them this lol they are thrilled. Of course we blame them. That shit is all over the internet all the time, but a scorpion is a scorpion. Its in its nature, you cant change their whole ideology.
The group he is criticizing claimed to have been protest-non-voting because of harm done to specific groups. Mainly Palestinians. This is the group who should have empathy for human beings, who's motive should align with the other Democratic voters.
We told them REPTEADLY. LOUDLY. CLEARLY. that what they were doing would result in worse violence FOR PALESTINIANS and MORE marginalized groups like TRANS PEOPLE and IMMIGRANTS. And what happened? Exactly what we told them would happen. So everyone who fucking claimed to have been doing what they were doing to protest needs to see this. They need to be held accountable. WHAT PRIVILEGE IT IS to be able to protest and go back to your life without worrying about ICE or Israel or transphobes or Russians coming and killing you.
WE TRIED TO GET THEM TO HELP PROTECT THESE GROUPS AND THEY REFUSED KNOWING FULL WELL WHAT WAS COMING. THE GOP PUBLISHED THE MANUAL BEFORE THE ELECTION.
Every time someone says "I told you so" it comes with a justified rage and I won't fuckin hear someone telling them to stop bringing it up. Fuck that.
I hope this sticks with them and the guilt haunts whatever conscience they have for the rest of their life. It's not comparable to what they allowed to happen. It doesn't even register on the scale next to this. They were the ones who actually could've stopped this.
Did you even read the post youre commenting in?
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This is a perfect explanation.