Daft_ish

You're my hero

What is a "state religion"

What is zion?

Im just demonstrating "zionism" didnt become "zionism" until the jews acted on their belief that they had a claim to some land. Just as the Palestinians believe they have a claim to some land, religious or otherwise. Some guy deemed the Jewish zionism "zionism" from some other meaning just as a Palestinian "zionism" could be claimed.

What does it even matter, youre now arguing that zionism could exist with out the displacement or death of the Palestinian people. How is that wrong in a region strictly inhabited by other ethnostates? Hell, you even argue Iran, an ethnostate, is justified in attacking isreal!

Let's keep this going.

Simply put, Zionism is a movement to recreate a Jewish presence in Israel. The name comes from the word “Zion,” which is a Hebrew term that refers to Jerusalem.

Throughout history, Jews have considered certain areas in Israel sacred—as do Christians and Muslims. The Torah, the Jewish religious text, depicts stories of ancient prophets who were instructed by their God to return to this homeland.

While the fundamental philosophies of the Zionist movement have existed for hundreds of years, modern Zionism formally took root in the late 19th century. Around that time, Jews throughout the world faced growing anti-Semitism.

Some historians believe that an increasingly tense atmosphere between Jews and Europeans may have triggered the Zionism movement. In one 1894 incident, a Jewish officer in the French army named Alfred Dreyfus was falsely accused and convicted of treason. This event, which became known as the “Dreyfus Affair,” sparked outrage among Jewish people and many others.

Persecuted Jews who were struggling to salvage their identity began promoting the idea of returning to their homeland and restoring a Jewish culture there.

https://www.history.com/articles/zionism

You cant tell me my definition of zionism is wrong then tell me your made up definition of zionism is right.

The South African people used civil disobedience to change the laws of their government and ended apartheid. You're saying isreals government need be destroyed. South Africans did not trash their government, they changed it.

Zionists, they believe in deconstructing palistine by force. Am I wrong, what is it youre really against zionism or Jewish zionism?

Hamas, Ansarallah, and Iran are not liberartors.

South Africa made policy possible through strategy. You're just looking to extend the tit for tat.

You can use the nazi example as a general analogy. It does not translate to a 1:1 anology. Nazi Germany was not being propped up by an imperialist america.

Edit: you can continue to pretend to throw haymakers but if youre through getting toyed with you can go back to the boss and tell him youre wasting resources.

I do not support isreal being an ethnostate and you wont/cant present me with a path for isreal to integrate with palistine. By your logic youre tantamount to a zionist because you cannot demonstrate how isreal will ever be deconstructed other then by force, death, destruction.

D-day the allied forces attacked a genocidal expansionist state beginning the liberation of France. Who are the allied forces that will liberate palistine?

South Africa was liberated through civil disobedience. That is the South African model.

I prefer likely solutions that can be executed without large human tolls. That and generations long projects that methodically deconstruct oppressive societies and replaces oppression with liberty.

Har har. You got it all figured out.

Tell me, what happened on D-day?

Tell me, what happens when isreal is under the rule of an islamic government?

That's a trivial naive understanding of the situation but you do you. America isnt storming tel aviv either, so, I guess you have fun playing games in your fantasy world.

Im not a zionist. Are you a jihadist?

Edit: if you want the allies to storm isreal thats fine but as you might know, america isn't the world police. Ill stick with that. Should they supply isreal with weapons, no, but make your case to liberals by telling them that they should allow the death/displacement of millions of Jewish people.

Yes

So how is "force" harm reduction?