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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (13 children)

Those people are dying out, which is more to my point.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

No, I am advocating for democratic control, not giving all control to one or two dudes. That's what you're putting in my mouth. For example, I'm arguing for the factory to be owned by the Workers, and managed by whoever they vote for. You're the one adding the caveat of an anti-democratic central god-planner, which is nonsense.

The rest of your comment is you continuing this nonsense, so maybe I'll break it into something simple and bite-sized for you.

Factory 1: Capitalist owner, workers have no say except to leave.

Factory 2: Workers are the Owners, elect a manager, and said manager can be deposed by the Workers at will.

Why do you think having Factory 1 is better, and why do you think I'm advocating for Factory 2 to have no democracy whatsoever? Why do you think it's impossible to have a federated network of Factory 2s, that are all democratically accountable, rather than someone at the top of all of Factory 2s and no democracy?

If you keep avoiding this question and intentionally misrepresenting my point, you just further prove that you don't actually care to discuss anything.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Newpipe is great, for me. I don't have a steady stream of recommendations or shorts, just content I actually subscribe to and whatever is trending if I go there, or manually search for.

The infection of ads into every corner of Social media legitimately was making me a worse person, with a shorter attention span and no mental clarity.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Indies are the bright path. Been absolutely fucking enthralled with Signalis lately, and it was made by less than a handful of people.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Something about French words makes you really want to say them with the most forced and shitty accent imaginable.

Quesssont

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (18 children)

Unironically yes, increasingly. I know Lemmy is very leftist, and thus doesn't reflect America in general, but the more time goes on the more left each generation becomes, and Gen Z is by far the most leftist generation in America currently. Gen Alpha will have to wait and see, but for now America is more likely than ever before to vote for Bernie.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This. I've only been recently able to afford much needed dental care, and now it's too late for one of my teeth, a tooth above it broke the roots because my mouth is too crowded. Had I been able to afford it earlier, I would have a much more normal mouth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you agree that letting the hands of the few impact the many is a bad thing, then why are you in favor of limiting control of Production to the hands of the few, rather than the many?

Genuinely. If a government was democratically accountable, at all levels, why do you believe this is worse than Capitalist institutions that by definition are not democratically accountable?

Please, answer that question, if nothing else.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (6 children)

People are gaining economic power as opposed to Capitalism, the state must be of the workers to be Socialism. I'm arguing for democratic control of production, rather than allowing it to be decided by a tiny group of people with little to no accountability a la Capitalism. The checks and balances are democracy, which doesn't exist in Capitalist production.

Why don't you have a problem with the Benghal famine then, or the Irish Great Famine? Does famine only matter if tools are collectively owned, rather than privately? This is an utter non-point, and is why democracy is important to add to production.

In liberal Capitalism, there is precisely no mobility for Workers that they would not have in Socialism. In Socialism, they can actually directly impact production.

You keep attaching mysticism to Socialism, claiming it is inevitable to fail. Purely vibes.

All in all, you're incredibly wrong. I'm arguing that workers collectively and democratically control productuon, rather than working for mini-dictators. Your argument is that mini-dictators are good, and people should have less voice, then you add random strawman arguments and claim genocide must happen because you're anti-democracy, and equate democracy to genocide. It's absurd.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Many do, not all of course. Factionalism hurts everyone, at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I want to force people to be able to democratically control production, rather than having no say whatsoever, yes. You presumably would side with the Capitalists over the Monarchists in the French Revolution, yes? Same logic, you would want to force the powerful to give up control to a larger group of people, I just want everyone to have power.

Socialism also allows for innovation, the idea that innovation is a Capitalist notion is absurd. Capitalism only goes back 400 or so years in the mainstream, yet innovation has been happening without Capitalism for all of history, and still happened in Socialist systems, such as Worker Co-operatives, or even the Soviet Union.

I'm adversarial to people pretending Capitalists are leftists, and that the left has abandoned Socialism. I'm sorry I don't agree with historical revisionism.

Lemmy was created by a Communist. The platform itself was built on leftist principles, and as such is leftist in structure. The individual instances need not be piloted by a leftist, but that doesn't mean they aren't participating in a leftist structure along leftist principles.

The joke with purges wasn't even funny, it was incredibly weak. Of course I'm anti-purge, do you want me to make the equally weak joke that you're pro-child labor and slavery? Grow up.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Negotiating collectively is the only way to negotiate with a Capitalist. Individually, you are a replaceable cog, collectively you're the machine.

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