True.. How about this one? https://insights.priva.cat/p/a-follow-up-on-does-proton-still
Comtief
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Amazon is a big river though. /s
The problem with boycotting is that it requires A LOT of people to care. I doubt boycotting alone does much, unless usa keeps getting worse and more people start to care. But maybe Europe can at least become motivated enough to make it's own alternatives for things that usa currently has monopolies on. If we just look at it as a boycott, it's not much, but perhaps this anti-usa sentiment can wake Europeans up at least to come up with some better alternatives.
Eh I just don't see it.. There are just too many ideological conflicts between being nationalist/myNation and being motivated in participating in the avoid USA movement in the first place. The way I see it, they are direct opposite crowds.
For example, do you think Canadians are in danger of going full nationalist because they are avoiding usa products now because Trump wants to make them 51st state?
If anything, it's mostly a liberal movement.
Idk this whole thread confuses me. I'm on est.social instance, I'm gonna assume I see everyone who hasnt excluded my instance and vice versa..
Sorry what do you mean? I see users posting from other instances in my mastodon app (I haven't used it much).
Funny, I remember in 2017 the voice chat had mic issues all the time but now that works much better. But I suppose everything else got bloated..
How would that work though? Nationalistic people tend to be anti-EU, no?
I don't blame you for drawing these conclusions, for me what I've read this far is not convincing enough to stop using Proton. It makes me weary, yes, but it's not so black and white for me after I read more about it. I'd still take proton over Gmail any day and the private drive thing is nice too, as long as he won't go full pro-Trump, I'm fine with Proton. I mean, he is not even wrong that democrats are captured by big tech, he just seems naive to think that Republicans are not actually worse. Also his donating pattern is similar to George Soros, so there is that.
yeah my analogy is not so good.. LLMs suck with factual stuff, they are better with coding or languages (Claude has been really helpful to me with Estonian).
I mean sure, but I'm saying these tend to not be the kind of people who want to avoid USA products. Like, afd members are probably not boycotting Teslas or twitter etc right now, if you know what I mean.
No I don't mean american liberals, i mean its more liberals in general (canada, EU..) supporting this kind of movement, american liberal leaning people seem to be supportive of it too as far as I can tell.
I can't speak for others, but at least I am trying to avoid USA products, not because suddenly I feel like local products are superior (in many cases they are not, often there is no alternative at all), I just don't want to support this corporate capture bullshit in USA. That's it. There's nothing conservative about it. I really don't know why they called it buyfromEU or buyeuropean or whatever, but what i'm noticing is that if you want to avoid USA products, almost every alternative is from EU (as long as you want to avoid China too). And it's not really about EU anyway, people promote Canada or UK stuff all the time.