CatratchoPalestino

I have no clue what I would reply to your last message to me was asking if I was gonna purity test every latin american country. I’ve already spent plenty of time talking about the political-economy of my country and how that connects to the wider world

someone has to I guess

I don’t have an identity crisis I’m an arab and an honduran and simply that. as i’ve said before latin americans typically view themselves as westerners. you can go to china and see yourself if latinos tend to hang out in expat communities alongside white people instead of being with native chinese if you don’t believe me. and I have to say that english/american media is qualitatively superior and likely will be compared to chinese media for the next 20 years although I usually watch more chinese than english stuff these days

I did ignore your non-racial differentiation between spain and the countries north of it but including that didn’t help the point I was trying to make and would’ve required a whole tangent on how “the genius to invent capitalism and develop the world” is attributed to anglo-saxon conception of blood and race. maybe that can be part 2

you still do not seem to understand the difference between knowing a language and having that language be your native language and being able to use it to talk to everyone in society to work, for enjoyment, and to deal with the government.

latinos don’t get a choice of being a westerner our countries were colonized ages ago and now we’re thoroughly westernized to the point we can’t go back. not to mention I in particular can’t go back since I’m an arab and I’m not gonna learn the language and identify with one of the native groups i’ve no tie to. and it’s really not up to you to decide if latinos choose to identify as westerner or not

I can’t exactly move to palestine, or to go back in time and not learn spanish or english, or go back in time and tell my family to stay in palestine, or go back in time and tell the conquistadors to stay in spain can I? you’re acting like it’s me who is latching myself to the west when it’s societal forces which have been doing so for hundreds of years. I’ve done my part to not live in the west and I speak more asian languages than european ones. the thing latching me to the west here is having to be able to reply to you

a very small percentage of south africans speak english at home, roughly 10%, and english in the country is nowhere near the same as spanish is in any latin american country but its conceivable, especially for the white people in south africa who speak english and afrikaans natively, to conceive themselves as western and identify with western culture rather than any kind of ethnic or tribal or village association. same for the hong kongers who decided to flee to england after the protests and view china as an "imperialist power taking away autonomy". I find it would be similar to an african american saying they identify with the west and that they are western which would not at all be odd in the united states

you’re not at all explaining how this “hegemonic meaning” functionally works. your theory of white reductionism that all these terms reduce down into being code for white anglo saxon protestants or whatever your nordicist flavor breaks down pretty quickly in the detail. why would calls to end apartheid and establish democracy in south africa happen if democracy is just code for white etc

why not both? do slavs not form their own bloc in europe? đó orthodox and catholic and protestant form their own bloc? are southern europeans not their own bloc? latin americans evidently feel very western when they’ve spoken spanish or portuguese in all spheres of life for hundreds of years and can talk to an iberian in their mother tongue like they speak to their neighbor or all other latin americans. this is not at all comparable to say an angolan who speaks maybe Kikongo to his family and friends, Umbundu when they travel for work, and Portuguese from time to time as their third language if they visit the capitol

yes but evidently as i’ve shown the west talks about itself in more ways than just a nordicist or anglo-saxonist way and ignoring those other ways it talks about itself as either ways of hiding nordicism or being false and reducible to nordicism is dogmatic and serves to lessen people’s understanding of the world

Latin america is 33 different nations not 1 and spengler was not trying to describe simple national interests. regardless, I care more about class interests