Arkouda

Not at all what I said, which is why I said earlier I sincerely do not believe you understand English well enough to continue having this conversation.

Take care

So explain slavery. That was once morraly good. Hell, some still do.

What is there to explain? We aren't the only species on the planet who take slaves.

There is no such thing that is universally good ot bad. If it were it would apply universally not just to the ingrown.

I know. Hasn't stopped our species from fighting about it. Which is why my point is something "Bigger than humans" was required to unify our species beyond small groups who agree with one another.

We are seeing it all over thr world in real time. Murder should be a universally condemned act yet we see “moral” people screaming for the death of people they deemed unworthy every day

I know. Doesn't change my point.

I am not arguing that "morality" is a universal inherent thing. In fact, I am arguing that it is not universal, not inherent, and you are supporting my point which is that Spirituality and Religion preclude Morality because "morality" is not universal and "something bigger than our species" was required to move beyond family sized units.

That does not mean it worked and we now live in a morally sound utopia.

"God is all knowing, and God is all seeing. Just who do you think you are to change his mind? He already knows what you want, and decided that you didn't need it. So don't bother asking for cures or the answer, God is the one who gave you the cancer!"

Dead - Voltaire

Morality is a word given to a specific idea, i.e. a universal set of rules for "Good" and "Bad" that are believed to be undeniable, and is different from "rules" or "laws" prescribed to live cohesively.

If we agree not to murder each other to the benefit of the group, we are not saying we won't kill each other if it no longer benefits the group. If we agree that murder is inherently wrong, we are saying that we won't kill each other even if it does benefit the group.

Morality requires more than simply agreeing to not do something. Simply abiding by a rule in animals is called "premoral behavior", which assumes they are not acting with morality but the precursor to it. Much like we would have before developing those basic "rules" into a morality that has been historically done through spirituality.

That isn't "morality".

Excessive device use has been demonstrated to be highly detrimental to adults. The recommendation is no more than one hour a day.

In a world where no one listens to that advice and actively acts against it, children can only benefit from 8 hours a day where they are not allowed access and must instead be social humans for a while.

There’s much more to schools than just focus in classes.

Like in person socialization and relationship building?

I would love to see the archaeological evidence that suggests our species begun exploring "morality" through agreeing on certain behaviors being "good" or "bad". Unfortunately all evidence we have on early humans demonstrates our species has been "spiritual", e.g. believing in a greater force beyond our control that determines outcomes and promotes group unity, as long as we were leaving a mark on the world that outlasted our bodies.

You can disagree, but that doesn't change what we know about early humans and their early belief systems, and that we lack any supporting evidence for your point.

Okay, so you’re just stringing together big words to try and sound smarter than you are, because “precursor of spirituality and religion” is a nonsense phrase.

Whatever you say buddy. Have fun being angry at a thought.