AnneVolin
First sentence:
Ah yeah i don’t see that particular cope myself
The very next sentence:
If Luigi is in fact our boy
You're in a post reporting his manifesto included bootlicking my dude. You are the cope.
I love these comments more than the actual attempts to rehab this dude because "being mad" is literally the undercurrent that drives the rehabilitation. I frankly don't give a shit about this guy anymore. I'm simply tired of seeing this lazy shit on my page, and waiting for the other shoe to drop.
Willem Van Spronsen was a committed anarchist. Luigi reads Curtis Yarvin. Stop rehabilitating fascists.
The most we know about his manifesto is that it quotes Kazinsky. He's a third positionist at best.
he just has a confused ideology
There's is an entire ideology for techbros that exists as an outgrowth of Deluze/Guattari, Lyotard and Mark Fisher which often mixes with the Kazinsky/Linkola/Hardin set at the "green" edges. It's modern advocates are the Curtis Yarvin, Nick Land, and Hoppe. They literally name their magazines shit like Thermidor Magazine, their ideological views are based on similar history that Marxism is. In fact many of them have read Marx and agree with various observations historical, ideological, and sociological, but not the prescriptions.
It's not "confused", it simply has the following premises:
- History does not trend toward progress
- People are not are equal
- The over class (often based on some kind of "philosopher king" or "titan of industry" vague qualification, but at their most honest are often explicitly racist) deserve the "fire of Prometheus" (technology, capital, power) because only they can wield it responsibly.
- The under class do not deserve the "fire of Prometheus" because they cannot form a stable society (insert more racism/bullshit here)
- By accelerating the contradictions they see in society, they can force a cataclysm that consolidates and binds the underclass and reinvigorates the over class.
It's a messianic reskinning of capitalist boom and bust cycles. They aren't confused. They know what they're saying. They simply cannot close their eyes to the types of observations that they've heard from leftists that resonate with them, they simply decide on different causes and different rectifications.
You're not gonna fight this on "leftist" ground simply because some of them also hate healthcare. They'll agree with your arguments on healthcare and ignore you for the rest.
You effectively can't, at least in a purely in an additive way. Unlike Stalin this site uses democratic centralism not to maintain some kind of power structure, but as a way to provide an objective safe space for various people. The cost of that safe space is the curtailing of discussion about the practical aspects and difficult edges of organizing, politics and theory.
Switching to a more subjective moderation to promote discussion would put people at risk of having to deal with the discussions whether in good faith or not regarding things that may feel unsavory and unsafe. Also let's be honest, there isn't that much basic discussion of theory that goes on here in comparison to the shit posting, so the change really wouldn't matter as much.
Unfortunately the left doesn't have the easy simple problem of "eternal September" to contend with, we have an "eternal September" that has to be intersectional. It's in general a problem of trust, and it's a hard one to solve for online communities.
I'm being crucified like a dog in the street and you're sitting here just laughing????????
I mean sure I agree, but this conversation isn't "just" about the Adjuster. The admins in the last site wide struggle session claimed they want to move the culture away from shitposting, but the problem is that the democratic centralism that the site runs on effectively binds the culture and makes the only "safe" outlet shitposting.
Anyone who's been in leftist spaces esp. online for a long time has seen this kinda shit. It's why we're talking about this like we're gonna get banned for it. It also shows the reactionary tendencies that under gird this site, that's the problem with democratic centralism in practice, you don't really get to ask why, like Amazon you disagree and commit.