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[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (129 children)

Do you have evidence to support this?

Just my personal impression from having lived in urban leftist areas. I'm not including anyone who's keyed into politics, just the other 80%.

Democrats just don’t do that.

The Democrat Party is a coalition. Democrats who believe strongly in political ideals, and who believe Republicans are evil (or close to it) would never vote Republican, sure. But I'm not talking about them. Many Democrats vote as they do just because that's what their friends and families do, and they've never been given a reason to question it. Those are the folks I spoke of, and there's a ton of them.

Seems to me that they are more than willing to do what is needed to help those in need. I truly find it bizarre how helping people is seen as a bad thing. And I find it bizarre how dehumanizing them is the norm.

We're talking about illegals here, not normal immigrants. The distinction is crucial.

When somebody's very first act on American soil is to break the law, that person is a criminal with no regard for civility. Compassion is appropriate when they remain in their home countries, fighting against their oppressors. Compassion is inappropriate for criminals who invade our country with the express purpose of breaking our laws.

Legal immigrants, who I hope have been carefully vetted for American values, are welcome to share our blessed home and our Judeo-Christian values and rugged individualism. Illegal immigrants, otoh, are by definition not.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (4 children)

That misunderstanding is why echo chambers grow. Your fear of being perceived as a Nazi only reveals that you're overly concerned what other people think of you, which strongly suggests that you're young and naive. As you grow up, you'll stop caring what others think of you (hopefully you will — no everyone does), and you'll learn to respectfully engage in conversation with people of divergent viewpoints (even if they happen to believe their personal level of melanin justifies their superiority complex).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (32 children)

Fascists haven't existed since 25 Luglio in 1943. You can find a tiny number of exceptions over the years, but as a broad statement it's true. I'm not old enough to have argued with fascists, and I bet you're not either.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Yes, everyone whose point of view differs from yours must obviously be inferior to you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Sure, and I could have chosen any other action, but I chose murder because it's not contentious to express a disapproval of it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Except really, nobody's ever debating anyone's right to exist. That's absurd.

Consider this: If a mass murderer was captured and imprisoned, he could claim that the justice system opposes his right to exist. The trouble with that is he'd be completely incorrect. The justice system opposes his behavior of murder. No matter how much he believes his very existence is inextricably bound to his behavior of murder, the reality is he murders by choice, and it is that intentional action which the justice system opposes.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I only know about them because I subscribe to m/kbinMeta. If you stick to your subscribed magazines, as I do, you only hear those to whom you intentionally listen.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (13 children)

What kind of absurd hyperbole is that? Nobody has called for murder. And certainly nobody has committed a murder based on a call for it.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

Have you never heard "sticks and stones may break my bones, but names can never hurt me"? It's preschool 101. Speech is never an act of violence.

Additionally, nobody is debating anyone's right to exist.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (29 children)

A group of patrons sitting at a table in a bar, quietly discussing their TERF perspective, is entirely different from one of them walking up to a trans table and picking a fight. The former is an exercise of free speech, whereas the latter is cause for ejection.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's not at all ludicrous to conceive that I may be wrong on any topic. I enjoy learning something new when I'm disproven. It's not easy to convince me (or anyone else for that matter) that I'm wrong, but I'm generally open to the possibility.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (38 children)

I was active in r/Conservative, and here I'm the primary contributer to m/Conservative. Hi, nice to meet you. When I'm engaged in arguments involving the word "fascist", it's rarely me using that word (unless we're literally discussing Mussolini), and usually me who's called that for favoring levelheaded conservative principles. I enjoy mutually respectful debate, but I find most others prefer to fearfully call me a "fascist," downvote everything I've ever written, block me, and walk away feeling sanctimonious.

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