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[–] [email protected] 97 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I love this! Not only for the comedic value, but throwing kernel oopses on-screen when they can't be easily captured when unprepared would be of great help in solving system problems. Unlike the cryptic messages Windows displays, Linux kernel messages are quite useful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Isn't this the default behavior of all(?) modern *nix init? Maybe not SysV, i don't know.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Is it? I've been on Debian/Ubuntu since 2005 and I've never seen anything on-screen whenever I've gotten a kernel oops.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

They use Systemd, so there.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some Highlights:

  • A new component "systemd-bsod" has been added to show logged error messages full-screen if they have a "LOG_EMERG" log level. This is intended as a tool for displaying emergency log messages full-screen on boot failures. Yes, BSOD in this case short for "Blue Screen of Death". This was worked on as part of Outreachy 2023. The systemd-bsod will also display a QR code for getting more information on the error causing the boot failure.

  • Hibernation into swap files backed by Btrfs are now supported.

  • Support for split-usr has been removed.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Actually looking forward to the btrfs swapfile hibernation; I have tried setting it up on my machine before but the documentation was never clear on whether it would work (or why mine wasn't).

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Seems like some kind of sacrilege.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i totally understand if they named it bsod just for the meme, it's funny also they could make an option to change de color :b

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (3 children)

They could have gone with the “Red Screen of Wrath” or something.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

I’m giving you bonus points for the alliteration.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

The thought of someone's Linux install failing catastrophically, displaying a "MSoS", then the user switching back to the is MS OS because of it is funny to me.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)
[–] Asymptote 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Black Screen of Meditation

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

That almost sounds soothing.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Back about two decades when I was using Windows and it was till easily customisable, I changed the bsod colour to red for funsies. Windows being Windows crashed and went to my red screen of death - my ex's cousin saw it and thought it was something really really bad, "Wow, a red screen, never seen that before. Must be even worse than blue". No mate, I just customise the shit out of anything I touch 😅

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

Fuchsia Screen of Disappointment

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Agreed, bsod is precisely what I’ve been running from with Linux.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't this basically just better error reporting? It's not like it's gonna crash more often, it will just actually show log info if something catastrophic happens.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, there is a random crash every six hours now to increase familiarity.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

Unfortunately this only affects boot messages, not normal system operation, for that you still get core dumps and kernel panics / oops

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A BSOD that gave you a clue about why it happened would be a welcome change.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

that's the goal, they also gonna implement the QR code, but not like the crappy of QR code on windows(that send you to a suppirt page with a dozen of possible sulution, where nothing work), the qr code is going translate to the kernel panic message, i liked, i can scan the qr code and search the error on my cell

[–] [email protected] 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I just wish they would use another name for it, it's linux here no need to copy windows slang! Or use another color! (I hope they'll update it to make it a customizable color)

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: The Windows BSOD colour was as easy as adding a couple of lines to a .INI file for a long time. Then, as they tend to do, they made it more difficult, but it was still possible. Third party tools were written to do the work.

Very recent MS Windows I have no idea about. My search-fu is failing me.

Anyway, my point is that the "two lines in a config file" method would be nice.

Knowing systemd though, it'll be "send some kind of message into a /proc pseudo-file", or a sub-sub-sub-command of one of the many systemd* commands which ultimately does the same thing.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah, Linux should have taken the guru meditation from the Amiga! (I know VirtualBox already copied it mind you)

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago (3 children)

At least make it pink or smth

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (3 children)

PSoD is already used by VMware ESXi. And Windows Insider builds, I think.

Maybe green?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Green is Windows Insider builds

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Maybe a customizable setting? Black screen with red border and a looping kittens video?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

PSoD

Piss Screen of Death?

edit: oh nvm, I mistakenly thought this was in reply to the suggestion for dark yellow.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Dark yellow?

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)
  • Hibernation into swap files backed by Btrfs are now supported.

So, with btrfs on ssd, is there any use case for a swap partition?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (8 children)

Use case is not having enough RAM?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think what they mean is that you can just make a swap FILE instead, which you can grow and shrink as needed. No need to mess with partitioning.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do you mean that you don't have to find the LBA of the extents of your swap file, and put that into a kernel argument anymore?

Cuz that is a nasty, skanky hack.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago

I don't think it's going to do a whole lot of good when the whole KMS/DRM falls over.

(okay I haven't had that for a few months now. But i am still traumatized)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Good idea, stupid name.

Excellent for causing FUD.

No, this will not increase the amount of kernel panics you see. It just makes them more informational to the average person. Technical folks can disable it, non-technical folks won't know how to enable it, so on by default it is.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Ahead of the holidays systemd 255 has debuted as stable and comes with systemd-bsod as a "Blue Screen of Death" service capable of displaying full-screen error messages on Linux.

This is intended as a tool for displaying emergency log messages full-screen on boot failures.

The systemd-bsod will also display a QR code for getting more information on the error causing the boot failure.

  • Systemd's bootctl will now show whether the system was booted from a Unified Kernel Image (UKI).

  • systemctl will now automatically soft-reboot into a new root file-system if found under /run/nextroot/ when a reboot operation is invoked.

  • A new option "SurveFinalKillSignal" has been added to skip the final SIGTERM/SIGKILL spree on shutdown in order to survive soft-reboot operation.


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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

I want it with Elon's face in the backgrund, so that I can throw some darts at it!

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