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[–] [email protected] 129 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Here's the actual blog post.

The article about the blog post adds nothing.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Adds negative value by introducing confusion

"If you want to use signal it will cost you"

[–] [email protected] 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"You will personally be assessed a fee of $50 million on November 17, 2024."

[–] Luisp 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Do you accept discount coupons as payment?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Those are IOUs. I'd just as good as money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

We take Visa, Mastercarp, a meow it can express, this cover, Babel, ...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Only in the form of Khols Kash and expired BB&B coupons.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@[email protected] could you swap the article and title with the better source?

Lemmy lets you edit titles after the fact. You can leave an explanation for the swap in the post body, and leave the original link there too if you want

[–] KairuByte 90 points 2 years ago

That headline is just dumb.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

To put it bluntly, as a nonprofit we don’t have investors or profit-minded board members knocking during hard times, urging us to “sacrifice a little privacy” in the name of hitting growth and monetary targets.

Good, I've been a regular donor for almost a year now.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I donated, and planned to continue yearly, but then they added a cryptocurrency in a very obvious pump and dump scam — MobileCoin; brand new, untested, for-profit startup owned, VC funded, in which the Signal CEO was an adviser and potential investor, with all "coins" privately pre-sold to VC's and other investors.

I haven't recommended Signal since, and refuse to donate until that shit is removed.

IMO Signal should only be seen as temporary until a stronger competitor is built. Being centralised and US based is a deal breaker, long term. The permanent communication service, that humanity should ultimately rely on, must be completely decentralised and capable of transacting via a client-based P2P mesh network, that is independent of commercial internet infrastructure... e.g. it can continue operating phone to phone, router to router, etc, using wifi/bluetooth if the internet is cut, whether by government action or natural disaster.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Nothing is black and white or pure. The list of features of a large-scale system like this includes its popularity. Signal excels at that compared to many alternatives and personally I think that's worth a few transgressions. I too dream of a P2P system but I can't see how underfunding Signal would help reach that goal. If anything having one popular open source non-profit platform could make it easier to get P2P. For example by pushing the popular platform to implement it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

For something less centralized, Matrix already exists. In my experience, the UX isn't as smooth as Signal, and it seems like mainstream users have very little patience for rough edges in UX anymore.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I upped my monthly sub.

[–] [email protected] 49 points 2 years ago

Dumb clickbait title smh

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

I don't think I am going to be able to afford it.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I was just talking with a friend about why people trust signal so much and this article is a wonderful example of why