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https://archive.is/20231109141208/https://www.economist.com/china/2023/11/09/china-wants-women-to-stay-home-and-bear-children

It's hilarious that capitalist rags like the economist want their lib readers to fear Xi by making him out to be some authoritarian conservative.

Also funny: central government wants local governments to invest in good toilets, the gall! How dare they support improving public services! wojak-nooo

https://archive.is/20231109140845/https://www.economist.com/china/2023/11/09/xi-jinping-wants-china-to-have-better-toilets

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[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Authoritarian: Asking a women's conference to investigate healthy new ways to think of a family unit where women and men are equal and people still have babies.

Democracy: Ban abortion, lock up contraceptives, and arrest women who drive across state lines for medical care.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago

Democracy

maybe-later-honey "If you would have just voted harder, we wouldn't be doing this!", I say with my Senate majority and full control of the White House.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 years ago (1 children)

China has one child policy: "evil dictatorship, no freedom, mandatory abortions, oppression of women"

China relaxes one child policy & empowers families to responsibly provide for their children: "China wants women to stay home and bear children"

insert Parenti quote

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The advancement of women's cause not only facilitates individual development of women, but also promotes family and social harmony as well as the development of the country and the Chinese nation, he said.

It is necessary to strengthen guidance on young people's perspectives on marriage, childbearing and family, he said, urging women's federations to fine-tune and implement supportive birth policies, enhance the quality of population development and respond to population aging.

Noting that protecting the legitimate rights and interests of women and children, promoting gender equality and the all-round development of women and children are important components of Chinese modernization, Xi called on women's federations at all levels to intensify efforts to solve the prominent problems that affect and infringe on the rights and interests of women and children.

So sinister... If you cut and paste around all the bits where he talks about advancing and protecting women's rights.

He asked women's federations to conduct in-depth investigations to gain insight into the thoughts and aspirations of women at the grassroots level and understand the urgent needs of the cause of women's development.

Nooooo you can't just ask women's organizations to investigate and understand the urgent needs of women, you PATRIARCH!

Source

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If I don't frame them as evil patriarchs, how will my lib readers learn to hate anything to the left of them? wojak-nooo

Thanks for the source, I'll give it a read very-smart

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It's basically government boilerplate either way. What matters is the material outcomes for women, which as far as i know is about the same as here a mix if good and bad. So it's just racist hysterics by the economists. I'll also note they don't mention the new push against no fault divorce by right wingers in this country which is basically a right to abuse your wife law.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 years ago (1 children)

bear children

those are called "cubs"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Does this mean hexcubs are a thing? hexbear-shining

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Also, "we should actively foster a new type of marriage and childbearing culture" actually doesn't sound regressive or conservative, at least that little quote on its own. It sounds like Xi wants society to support pregnant people and people with children in new and better ways. Of course, we simply don't have the context of this quote, so it's hard to actually draw any conclusions from it. My guess, though, is that The Economist wrote this trying to make China look as terrible as possible, so my guess is that in context, this quote sounds even better and The Economist stripped the relevant context to attempt to make China sound scary and anti-feminist. Never mind that the US (and the UK) are actually in the midst of an extremely anti-feminist moment, China is scary and bad, don't you know?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Economist's articles are the liberal worldview distilled in a way I don't think other propaganda outlets capture in the same manner. I think it's rooted in its origins as a lobbying platform for the bourgeoisie way back in the 1840s

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I agree with you. The Economist is its own particular kind of terrible. I think it's the media outlet I hate the most, actually. I also hate, hate, hate that Economist articles don't have bylines. We don't get to know which particular ghoul wrote this particular reactionary nonsense article, so it's just "The Economist" having terrible opinions, as usual. Fucking cowards. Put your names to your articles so I can make fun of you personally.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

It doesn't have bylines because many of them are teenagers plucked from conservative societies at universities rather than actual experts or even staff writers. It's a cheap content mill with set stories basically.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Maybe my view is marred by my US experience but it also could be related to how anti kid so many people are. Don't have kids if you don't want them but also people should and need to be accepting and supportive of them existing in society.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 years ago

but his power has limits

So much for my authoritarian dictatorship

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

So supporting the working class so they can raise a family on one income? The horrors! The horrors!

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

Giving maternity leave and child subsidies is authoritarian, you have to just arrest women and force them to have kids and arrest them again if the kid starves.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago (4 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Piss in your sink and don't wash your ass

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

i get knocked down

i get back down again

you're never gonna knock me down

...

hey where's my keg?

...

i take a whiskey drink

i take a chocolate drink

and when i have to pee

i use the kitchen sink

i sing the song that reminds me i'm a urinating guy

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If toilets are communism, what is the nature of PIGPOOPBALLS ? These are important questions

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago

seems libertarian-approaching to me. hyper individualism etc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Modi immediately cancels toilet building programs.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Gender equality has got worse since 2012

Is it tho? Or are you pulling those stats from your ass?