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claims he isn’t far right
Right-wing extremists do this to make it seem like their position is widely held and "normal." The worst extreme right-wing party we have here in Finland (Valta kuuluu kansalle or "Power Belongs to the People", aka Valta kuuluu Kremlille or "Power Belongs to the Kremlin") claims to be center right. The head of the party is a pro-Russia flat earther who doesn't believe in climate change, and the party is staunchly anti-immigration
Performative Overton acrobatics.
they’re too stupid to figure out lemmy
Please let's not introduce elitism into Lemmy. I just got here and stumbled upon this post. The social network you use does not make you superior. As much as I agree with anti-racist censorship, there is no need to speak as if Lemmy users are superior beings. It was annoying when Redditors did it back in the day and it will continue to be now.
I mean more as "if you can't look past skin tone and gender, you can't probably read a sign up sheet."
Racists are idiots. The ones who learned better aren't idiots because they applied new knowledge.
Racists just regurgitate what they were told since birth, without questioning anything and doubling down.
Is Lemmy better? Remains to be seen. But if they refuse to join because we won't tolerate slurs, that's a bonus.
Big agree.
Quite. Remember narwhaling bacon? Never again.
Exactly this.
As an analogy, I personally think the Linux desktop is better than Windows but I don't think desktop Linux users are inherently better than Windows users.
Sure, desktop Linux users are probably more tech savvy on average but they are probably also more likely to be less socially capable imo. (like me)
"I use Arch by the way"
(I kid, I kid... I use garuda)
I do actually run arch btw :)
I'm glad that Beehaw doesn't do it, but the other instances shouldn't be federating the Tankies.
Authoritarian, genocide-denial, Stalin-praising politics have no place on the left.
The fact that guys like that dont feel welcome on Lemmy is a testament to Lemmy getting it right. I think it differentiates itself from the awful social media clones of the past like Voat or Vidme. I'll leave it at that because we should probably shy away from outrage bait. As much as I'd like to i cant do anything about him and he is driving his buddies away from us
This is the kind of dumb trash that makes me apolitical. Just like being athiest, I think having extreme beliefs that privileges abstract ideologies over real humanity activitely makes people less empathetic and more dangerous.
The breadth of the human experience is so much bigger than the desparate shouts of politicians and their distracted followers.
Even if communism in its platonic form is closer to a humane government system than capitalism, I still don't want to be constantly exposed to it.
Why, because political discussions are more concerned with complaining about a flawed system - AKA a flawed group of people erroneously granted too much power - than it is actually about solving problems.
Caring about humanity is why I care about politics, though. Politics is the vehicle through which humanity's fate is decided. If you don't participate in it, you allow people who do to run roughshod over you. Politics decides whether your country goes to war or not, whether people die in poverty or not, whether the climate apocalypse kills us all or not.
Note that by politics I do not necessarily mean electoralism. Voting is a stopgap measure at best. But there's much more to politics than voting and elections.
Abstaining is not apolitical, either. Every choice you make related to politics, including the choice of not participating in elections or discussions or whatever, is political and has consequences. That doesn't mean you need to be on political messageboards 24/7, either, but choosing to do nothing at all is an extreme position, of a kind. Apolitical just sounds like apathy, to me.
Whether the consequences of said apathy fall on you personally, well, perhaps not, for someone who feels safe enough to abstain.
P.s. please vote so us trans and nonbinary people don't end up genocided. K thanks.
idk what feeling safe has to do with it. I was homeless a few months ago, I do not feel safe in my own private life. Regardless of that–I still prefer my link aggregators to have a focus on topics which I find entertaining.
Idk about you guys, but I get ZERO entertainment value out of political discussion or discourse.
Why does that necessarily have to reflect negatively back on me? You aren't willing to accept me just because I don't find enjoyment in the same things that you do?
Why does that necessarily have to reflect negatively back on me? You aren’t willing to accept me just because I don’t find enjoyment in the same things that you do?
i don't think anyone's saying it does--and in fact i think you're kind of reading into a point that's not being made (at least not intentionally). as i'm interpreting @[email protected] and @[email protected] here, they're just saying that abstention or apathy is also an unavoidably political act in political discussions or circumstances, even if it seems like it isn't, and that in some circumstances it can be as extreme as taking a political position.
i'd also note Lowbird in particular is making a distinction between "apolitical" abstention and the decision to not participate in online political discourse, because those are two different things and certainly the latter doesn't speak to much of anything on anyone's part politically.
They're painting those who abstain from online political discussion to be privileged types who are taking advantage of the feeling of safety in their own lives and identity. I was simply refuting that caricature because I am a prime example of a person where it simply does not fit.
To be honest with you, when I want political discourse, I'm going to go and seek that out from scholars in the form of well-written books. There's really barely any insight to be gained from the average complete moron on the internet.
No, they're pointing out to people who claim the label "apolitical" that that's both a political stance and a privilege that not everyone gets to have.
I obviously identify myself as apolitical on the internet when I have zero interest in discussing politics with strangers on the internet.
Does that make me privileged somehow?
Your privilege is being apolitical. That is the privilege. For many of us, that isn’t an option.
You're totally right tbh, such types are ideally gonna go elsewhere for their freeze peach.
/dev/null seems to have ample room, they should try there
I understood that reference :D
I'll admit that I struggled to figure out Mastodon when twitter changed hands. For me it was either too confusing or not worth figuring out. Maybe it was just the nature of it being more about personal posts, so each server was much more different.
I had no such trouble with Lemmy/Beehaw. Drop-in replacement. That said, I don't think I'm a communist? I'm not a raging capitalist either though? I'm just kinda here.
If you joined beehaw, you aren't exposed to lemmygrad which is what they may be talking about. Some of them are far, far left and because they outnumbered other Lemmy users, the general vibe of viewing posts was a little extreme.
They are dropping away on the community browser so they may be relegated to niche rather than dominant as more users join.
As someone who is far, far left, I just want to say that Lemmygrad doesn't represent us all. The libertarian left is very different.
Online commies are the absolute worst. They made me realize I was an anarchist all along. It's incredible how much time they spend being angry about pointless shit that no one cares about, like people using slurs online. They can't help it but act like tiny dictators whenever they get the chance, by ganging up on anyone who doesn't subscribe to their specific flavor of groupthink. And the thing that irks me the most is that it's not even about left or right. It's not about the poor or the rich, or the means of production, or people being exploited, or anything tangentially related to the economy. It's all social justice. American identity politics. Issues that become less and less tangible the further you get from the anglosphere.
And they live in their echo chambers, and whenever their worldview is challenged they start posting insane takes like "Lemmy being functionally dead is actually good because I can't get offended on behalf of someone else if no one is posting anything"
The “centrists” that all all in favor of letting the oppressor and the oppressed talk their differences in a neutral playground are great.
Requires a level of love for the status quo and lack of reflection that never ceases to amaze.
Dude, you are not in the center. You are three steps from the neonazis and a thousand kilometers from the tankies. Even if you are opposed to the “extremes” and “mu horseshoe” yo are not equidistant.