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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (5 children)

how come everyone's all retvrn for plain white statues and clothes instead of like, flashy mesoamerican clothes or anything colorful really

[–] [email protected] 48 points 2 years ago (1 children)

to be fair, actual historical Roman clothing was pretty colorful, but yeah, the pop-history understanding of Rome doesn't necessarily emphasize that

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i mean, when westerners say rome, they arent really talking about rome. ffs, england somehow convinced itself and the rest of the world that it's the descendant of greco-roman civilization. this was only possibly by reinterpreting rome.

so i wouldnt call it just the pop-history understanding of classical civilization. this fake all-white marble rome goes deeper. it's a bit more like the fascist fantasies about the past that never was.

also, didnt the white marble rome meme get started in the reneissance?

[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 years ago

they still subscribe to the long debunked victorian understanding of rome
the stark white statues used to be colourfully painted

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago

The statues were also originally painted in really bright colors, it's just a specific subset of people who latched onto the all-yt aesthetic bean-think

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago

i will not hear guff on theodora bro her jewels got jewels on them

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I think there's a fundamental misalignment. The people who want to "retvrn" specifically want something stern and self serious, and do not want you or anyone else to have fun. They probably know on some level that all that Roman stuff used to be painted bright colors, but they present the stark white version because that's more in line with what they want.

Meanwhile the people who want something joyful and colorful have an abundant wellspring of modern and traditional examples to play with while designing clothes or doing paintings or whatever it is they do. Why intentionally limit yourself to a single historical period when half the fun is combining things together in unexpected ways?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

It's a copy of a copy of a copy. Mideval Europe had a Rome boner, then early modern guys got a Rome boner based off mideval sources, chuds now have bonwrs for how early modern guys imagined Rome through their making shit up and earlier guys who were also prone to making shit up or being wrong. These guys are dumb as hell

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ancient Rome was a really not awesome time or place to be a woman.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Even compared to its contemporaries. One of the stereotypes about Romans at the time was that they were incapable of loving their wives or children.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

One of the stereotypes about Romans at the time was that they were incapable of loving their wives or children.

  • Great accumulation of looted wealth
  • Lead poisoning
  • Incapable of loving their wives or children

Romans are boomers confirmed.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

They didn't bother naming their daughters. Romans were on a whole fucking level

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I also think a lot about Rome, but from a goth gf angle.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Need a goth gf to help me sack Rome

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 years ago

The process goes as follows:

  • no goth gf

  • become the goth gf

  • get a goth gf

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 years ago

the soviet union is my roman empire

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

geordi-no thinking about rome

geordi-yes thinking about Persia

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

The Roman empire? Like Alison Roman?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Feel a bit called out by this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

thinkin bout sellen