As listed by The Kyiv Independent
Look at all the lifes and resources thrown in the dumpster for absolutely nothing. True insanity.
this post was submitted on 16 Jul 2023
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Might want to keep in mind that there's pretty much no way Russia has 250k KIA. Usually the ratio of wounded to killed is anywhere between 6:1 to 3:1. Even assuming lots of KIA per wounded (which would seem likely in Russia's case, considering the meat grinders they keep throwing themselves at), it would mean they'd have somewhere in the vicinity of a million total casualties, and based on estimations done by journalists and researchers based on public data like obituaries, social media posts, cell phone metadata and things like that, the number is very unlikely to be that high. I'd buy 500k total casualties, around a third or quarter of which could be KIA.
We'll likely never know the true number, but it's guaranteed that Ukraine is overestimating and Russia is vastly underestimating.
I interpreted the troop figured as KIA and wounded combined. Just "here's all the troops that are no longer capable of combat"
I mean that'd definitely make the most sense since some estimates put their KIA around 50k +/- some tens of thousands giving us a wounded:killed ratio of around 4:1, but many sources quoting that figure specifically say it's KIA and seems like that idea has stuck with some folks.
I think the problem is that people who haven't been in the military or aren't military history nerds might not understand what "casualty" means and assume it's the same as "killed", when it's wounded/incapacitated + killed
edit: more on that ~50k KIA figure here https://en.zona.media/article/2023/07/10/stats
The fact that they chose the pornhub color palette is no coincidence
What does the +figure mean?
How many added since yesterday's reports.
Holy crap! 500 people lost in 24 hours! Fuck Putin.
Russia has been losing an average of 500 a day. Russian strategy during their winter offensive was to send masses of mobilized to their deaths to 'soak' up Ukrainian fire (as if they're sponges and not human lives) and then send experienced soldiers/ Wagner's mercs afterwards. Most of mobilised are minorities from the poorer regions so the Moscow/St.Petersburg urban crowd don't get impacted much and continue to support Putin.
Ethnic cleansing via enemy fire is a psycopath level of outsourcing.
And that isn't even a high number, more like "average". There have been days where it's been 1000+. Truly baffling how the Russians are seemingly fine with this.
Let me correct that a little bit. I did some Googling and it looks like it's from the last time the report was made. One of them is from a time in February to a time a July. So I'm not sure what the time frame is. Sorry about that. Here's the one I was taking about losses in Ukraine
There's one of these reports/overviews every day.
One of them is from a time in February to a time a July. So I'm not sure what the time frame is.
Follow one of the Ukraine MoD social channels to see the daily posts. It's a sightly different format, figures are the same.
Thank you for that. Sorry for my confusion.
This is a daily report. The +figure represents values for the previous day. The large number is calculated total from February of 2022.
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