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Since Internet search has and will change, which search engines do you use successfully, and what are their advantages?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I use DuckDuckGo, I forgot how to live without the search tags such as !yt, !fb, !w to search specific sites.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I have to shout out Wiby. It is focused on like weird personal websites from the early 2000s, that kind of thing. Absolutely not a general-purpose search engine, but mashing the "surprise me" button will take you to all sorts of fun places.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

In the same vain, there's marginalia search.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Stumbleupon is back, baby!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm just hitting 'surprise me' and having a blast.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kagi, hands down, is by far the best search engine I've ever used (next to Neeva, which got bought and shut down).

Just simple searches like "Best gaming headphones" or "Realtek Driver Download" and comparing them with Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Brave, Startpage, etc. shows how the quality of the results are far superior.

And you can directly define, which sites you'd like to see higher / more results of or less - or even completely block or pin them to the top.

Also, it also shows you directly, before visiting a site, in colors if a site has a very high number of ads and/or trackers.

And they support for power users custom CSS to adjust everything, URL rewrites (e.g. change all Reddit URLs to old.reddit or to automatically open libreddit), DDG and custom bangs, and much more.

Lastly, I created a so-called "Lens", which allows me to search Lemmy / Kbin content only (also still have one for Reddit).
Meaning with one click, it shows me results from only sites or keywords I've defined - see image.

Very satisfied with it, can only recommend.

(copied from another thread I replied to)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Interesting. I just searched some topics related to a paper I'm working on and found some good resources which I haven't seen on Google yet. Really interesting.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

might not count, but I use startpage, which uses google while allegedly keeping none of the info that makes google problematic
sometimes i use duckduckgo,

in firefox you can make a shortcut to type anything in any searchbar too, like so: (in this example I'll use kbin.social search)

We type something into search to get the exact url we need, that ends up being https://kbin.social/search?q=[something]
in this case [something] is obviously what we typed, so we save a bookmark of https://kbin.social/search?q=%s where %s swaps out what we type when we call to the bookmark
Then we give the bookmark a keyword that makes it easy to type, it can be anything but I'll just use kb
now whenever i type 'kb somethingsomething' it will search somethingsomething on kbin.social

I use this for youtube, arch wiki, the type-effectiveness graph on bulbapedia pages ( https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%s_(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Type_effectiveness ), etc, etc

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For general purposes I use Ecosia.

For a while I used Swisscows almost exclusively. They do an excellent job with privacy.

Due to a job I had, I moved away from it as I needed extremely specific information. As I write this, I'm thinking of giving it another try.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kagi.com no ads, private, you pay a subscription so they look for your interest instead of you being the product, has many customizations, very responsive company, very good use of AI, super fast, doesn’t require javascript, and many other things, just give it a try

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What paid plan do you use ? If it's not the ultimate plan, do you often go over the “limit” ? I'm interested, but I have a hard time knowing what plan I will actually require.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm also on the early adopter unlimited plan. What I suggest is that you take a conservative plan and observe your behavior, you can always upgrade to a bigger plan later

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not OP, but as a data point, I do approximately 2000-2500 searches per month. I'm obviously on the unlimited plan (an early adopter version of it). I'm in software development so I search a lot.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Thank you for the information :-)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Startpage, google search results without ads, trackers but much slower, the slowness can get annoying sometimes when my internet speed is bad

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, still Google, with Bing a distant second. I've realised at least half of my searches are locale-specific, and engines like DDG are so American-centric. This is even with letting DDG use accurate location data. Reading the options here and hoping to find something I've not heard before that'll work and hopefully replace Google as my main search engine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If you are in Europe, Qwant is a decent alternative. There are also alternatives like Ecosia and Startpage that use Google or Bing behind the scenes but limit how much they can track you.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Not in Europe, so don't think that'll work. Probably have to use something like what you said.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I have switched to Ecosia few days ago. No conplains so far. Its free, and builds off Bing IIRC.

I have been intrigued by Kagi, but Im not really ready to pay a sub for a search engine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Brave Search for the majority of things. Ecosia and sometimes Searx.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

In between Brave Search and DDG.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use you.com as it's centered on an ai chatbot and pulls in traditional web search results to augment it's answers. it works quite well.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Honestly? Bing chat has been quite good to me if I have specific questions. It searches the web and gives me a summary.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I personally use You.com, Mojeek and Startpage. All of them are great 👍..

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I use DuckDuckGo and it workw quite well and at least they say they protect your privacy (I am sure they do a better job than GAFAM/BigTech spyware mafia), but am looking for something better since I found out it has some agreement with Microsoft and I do not trust those spyware-producing convicted monopoly abusers at all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Been using DDG almost exclusively (still need google occasionally) but noticed the quality on DDG has been decreasing with the ride of generative content. Anything travel or review related is just garbage.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I use a private SearxNg instance that is self hosted on my home server.

It draws results from multiple search engines that you can choose from: DDG, Bing, brave, start page, Wikipedia and many more.

It is easily deployed using docker containers. Being self hosted it's pretty quick. Only slowed slightly by making simultaneous queries to multiple search engines.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago

I also use kagi.com (the name is quite funny for Italian speakers...).

For those interested in "why", here are my reasons:

  • generally, very high quality results.
  • completely ad-free and with an ironclad privacy policy (probably the best I have seen so far)
  • paid, which can be a downside, but it's also a way for me to know that I am the customer, not advertisers.
  • ability to use bangs and to create custom ones
  • ability to easily filter by area, there are a fee common areas such as "programming" or "recipe" or "academic" which affect the context of the search.
  • ability to up/downrank websites. If I personally find a certain website providing often useful answers for me, I can uprank it and make it show higher in the searches.
  • finally, a small cosmetic thing, but the results are organized very nicely, such as "best 10 x" articles being in a simple list and saving space, etc.

As a bonus, the company seems nicely transparent and overall well-intentioned. I hope it stays like this.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

Brave search works well, but I have the feeling they are playing with user's data otherwise I can't explain their business model