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[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Around here you'd be lucky to get any kind of justification for raising rent. Mine went up $500 this year just cuz for fun.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Same in my area. Shit fucking sucks.

[+] [email protected] -27 points 2 years ago (2 children)

It's not always "just for fun". taxes are going up... maintenence costs are going up. Everything is always going up.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Yeah and that's the risk you're supposed to take on when you invest in property to rent. The things you mentioned went up max 8% in my area but the rent increase was closer to double that. It's greed, plain and simple. Landlords raise rent because they can.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For better or worse it is unrealistic to expect business to just eat rising costs just because they got into business before the costs were so high. That would be nice but it's just not how the world works. If that were true then entire economies would collapse every time there was an economic shock.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

It’s also unrealistic to expect tenants to eat the costs for one our three very basic needs - food, water, shelter.

So what’s the solution?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

You'd be right talking about extremely unnecessary shit, like a new bugatti or a rolex or a replacement for a phone you bought less than 12 moths ago, but living space is a necessity that should be affordable if that's what the tenants need - good luck finding much of affordable and liveable living space.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

that’s the risk you’re supposed to take on when you invest in property to rent.

This is an absurd take. There's already an obscene amount of risk in rentals.

Let's look at some real information here.

I purchased my house at ~260k. It's now apparently worth ~400k in the market. So this means a few things. Now my taxes will continue to rise as the county assessor will continuously increase my tax burden until I meet market value. This is a cost I didn't ask for. I purchased my house at ~260 and do not realize ANY gain until 400k (If I even can, shits stupid inflated cutting out a lot of buyers). So year over year tax burden increase is one large source of reason why costs will increase. If I rented to you with the understanding that my costs are X$, and then it magically adjusts itself for Y$ which is significantly higher than X$, all that means is that I could lose the house to the bank... and by extension you wouldn't have a place to live either.

This is compounded by renters who vote to increase tax burden on those with properties because it doesn't affect them anyway. My area is voting on 2 things related to schools right now... To create and sell $500MILLION (about 80% of a years budget for this district, it's a large district) in bonds and to continue a budget override. This is solely paid by property owners in my area. It doesn't affect renters directly. Personally I have no issues with giving the schools money they need. But when you read the bill they're effectively mismanaging their money (literally throwing it away in many cases) and most of the people who just blindly vote yes never look at that. But that is a cost I now have to bear... that I didn't vote for, but a potential renter may have.

Then comes inflationary costs in resources/repairs. If your oven breaks, it has to be replaced... a lot of that stuff has gotten significantly more expensive over the past few years. Handyman costs have gone up too... Someone has to pay it...

For all we know.. 8% IS 500$ for you... or even more likely that rent hasn't gone up in a few years and the 500$ increase represents a compounding 8% increase... Btw inflation of just currency has been quite high... forget inflation of materials like wood for repairs.

Edit: LMFAO So now I know bots follow me. There's no way that I get instant downvoted when I accidently submit a post early like this. What a joke.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I purchased my house at ~260k. It’s now apparently worth ~400k in the market. Now my taxes will continue to rise as the county assessor will continuously increase my tax burden until I meet market value. This is a cost I didn’t ask for.

Your networth went up merely by living in a house you own. This is not evidence of taking on risk.

I'm in a house that I bought at $175k and is now worth $330k. Yes, my taxes are higher. They're higher because I own a property of higher worth. Using that fact to beat on people who aren't in that situation makes you a douchebag. Hence the downvotes.

[+] [email protected] -7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yes, my taxes are higher. They’re higher because I own a property of higher worth.

And yet you have to pay more taxes that you might not be able to sustain with your actual income. And when you finally make the breakpoint where you can't sustain it anymore... Then you no longer have a house. Remember a $1000 tax lien on your house can literally take away your 330k house.

Using that fact to beat on people who aren’t in that situation makes you a douchebag. Hence the downvotes.

Those downvotes came before I edited the post to contain all of my text. So no it's not where it came from. But thanks douchebag.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And as that value rises, I can sell it and live somewhere with a lower cost of living, pocketing the difference. You're still a douche for complaining about this. Maybe bots follow you because they're trying to make you go away.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Okay? You're assuming there is a lower cost of living somewhere to go to, and that you can actually sell at what the "market" value is. Or that the same thing wouldn't happen again in this new area forcing you to rinse and repeat in "selling" just to downgrade to "pocket" some magical "difference" that you're actually getting siphoned off of you because of tax increases that people who don't own property will determine that you owe.

In my personal circumstance I would have to leave my job and move at least 100 miles away to find anything "more affordable" in order to pocket the "difference". Forget that the 140k "difference" will get heavily eaten into in order to do that.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Keep complaining about how much tax you have to pay by becoming richer. I'm sure people struggling to make rent love to hear it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 2 years ago

Lmao. Your a moron if you think I'm rich.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow. That really sucks. Landlords should just sell their properties, instead of hoarding them all in that case.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago

The vast majority of renters don't rent because they can't own... They rent because they don't WANT to own.

So if all landlords just sold their properties all you'd be left with is the commercial landlords (apartments and the like).

So who would you rent from then?

[–] Draedron 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah. It goes up for renters too. Thats why landlords suck.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

If it's going up for landlords... You expect them to pay the difference for the renter? The renter doesn't go up as well?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'd absolutely expect a landlord, who by necessity has a second living space if they're able to rent one out, to eat the burden of rising taxes over the person renting and thus, most likely, fulfilling an actual need.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I was curious how much paint there was in my old apartment before I hit drywall. The complex was atheist 20-30 years old, it had to be significant.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Holy Invisible Flying Spaghetti Monster, batman!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

I don a colander today, my brethren, because I don't have a clue.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

I swear some landlords lay it on so thick they're basically reducing the total liveable square footage of their rental.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

You might have been missing some square footage at that point

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

Thankfully, where I live that would be illegal unless your current rent is 25.000 a month or more

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago

My last landlord kept my deposit because he had to repaint the walls that were ALREADY FUCKED UP when I first got there. When I moved out I had photos and everything of what it looked like before, and it was identical when I left. Whatever bitch, take my money. God will judge us all at the end

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Whatever you do, just don't tell the county assessor

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

ROTFL

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rise Of Tenants, Fuck Landlords.

Eh, I tried.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rolling on the floor, laughing. I prefer yours though, rise of the tenants sounds like a great B movie

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Maybe like Rise of the triad, but instead of cult its landlords. A landlord cult.