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A Staten Island woman buying pot from a local deli got into a misunderstanding with the cashier — who ended up macing her, dragging​ her outside by her hair, kicking her in the head and mistakenly calling her trans.

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[–] [email protected] 105 points 2 years ago (4 children)

When she called 911 after getting home, cops showed up but she was told she needed to go back to the scene, which is in a different precinct from her home, and call 911 from there.

Cops will move heaven and earth to not prosecute the criminals they like. Especially corrupt racist-ass NYPD.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 years ago

"Brown, a former NYPD captain, noted police are obligated to take a report no matter where the crime occurred and that forcing crime victims to return to where they were attacked is traumatizing. The NYPD said Adams told the 911 dispatcher she would go to the scene, suggesting she voluntarily offered to do so."

"Regardless, when Adams went back to the grocery and called for police from there, it took officers four hours to show up, she said. The officers, she said, appeared to know the attacker, referring to him as “Mr. Fourth of July.”'

JFC

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Not just the ones they don't like. They're corrupt and lazy. They don't go after any more than they have to.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago (5 children)

This is the consequence of the hatred that transphobes, garden variety conservatives and TERFs alike, have stoked. And the narrative that the media has gleefully ran with.

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays is genuinely scary in a way I think a lot of people don't fully understand. And of course when femininity is being policed, women of colour tend to suffer too, even if they are cisgender.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 years ago (2 children)

When you're so anti-trans you loop around and become anti-cis.

I think these people might just be anti-women.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 years ago

DING DING DING. They can "get away with" hating trans women more easily, but it's just a stepping stone on the way to Gilead for them.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Racism, Misogyny and transphobia have always come from a similar place and build off of each other. They share the same narratives and the same desire for ostracization and oppression. Bigots will always ally with other bigots, as this hatred is not rational and only someone with similarly irrational hate could support you. Dig enough in bigoted communities and you are certain to find all different kinds of hatred.

That's why TERF communities are infested with homophobia, misogyny, racism, antisemitism and Islamophobia. Over time the concentration of white supremacy and nazism has grown exponentially in terf communities. Nazis share many of the same goals and many of the same conspiracies that terfs do. And prominent terfs like Kelly Jay Keen openly ally with Christian white nationalists around the world.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'd argue that the TERF perspective is fundamentally anti-male rather than (or maybe in addition to) misogynistic.

The specific position TERFs hold that makes them TERFs is that you cannot become a woman if you weren't born one and that women should be granted certain special protections and spaces of their own, kept free from men.

That's why TERFs ALWAYS frame trans issues in the form of men dressing up as women to infiltrate women's spaces and women's services. They could give a shit about trans men, it's all trans women because trans women are the ones using things that in their eyes should be the sole provenance of "real" women.

[–] chatokun 12 points 2 years ago

They've also been stoking the "Black women look trans" narrative for a while, especially focused on Michelle Obama. I listen to Knowldge Fight so I've heard so many disgusting Alex Jones clips of him calling her Mike.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I feel we need to change that little children's rhyme to be a bit more accurate

"Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can lead to pogroms" or something like that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

"Pen is mightier than sword" expresses this idea already.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Being visibly trans or gender-non-conforming nowadays

And she's neither of those things anyhow. She will find out the guy's name & address in Discovery & he will go to prison for hate crime + assault.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

They know. That's why they do it. Most of them remember the days when it was the same for gay men.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Are you guys over the Atlantic feeling well? Is everything ok?

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 years ago

No, it's really not okay here.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Staten Island ≠ NYC. Place is a cesspool. And I don't have a horse in the race, just viewing it from over the border in NJ. Nobody likes Staten Island, it's filled with aggressive bigots.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Staten Island is literally one of the 5 boroughs of NYC. The city is more than Manhattan. But yes, SI is a cesspool.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

We call it east jersey in a mean spirited way, but even Newark was less crazy than some shit I've seen in SI

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Staten Island is a particularly shit place. We're ok.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

People should read this article.

I came into it assuming it was some crazy Karen attacking a butch looking lady. It's not. The guy in that picture is young, and in good shape. She wasn't just dragged outside, he has her pinned between the curb and a car, she's clearly terrified and he is clearly in a rage.

It doesn't seem like he really mistook her as trans, this lady isn't trans presenting. That was an excuse he threw out right before he maced her, but after he started arguing with her about the nature of her phone call because he thought she was trying to haggle with him on weed prices.

This is a very detailed account of an aggressive armed assault on a customer from a cashier. It's insane to me that the store manager just refuses to cooperate with any authorities to hand over the name of the employee who, allegedly, openly attacked and assaulted a woman for no reason.

This is a dark story about a maniac who randomly attacked someone. He should be in cuffs.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Almost like pointless hate makes the world a bit shitter.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't know, all that hate makes it really easy to point fingers at trans calling them a monster so you can hide wealth as the dragon lord of the land without anyone amassing to look for dragons when there are trans demons to demonize.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

HEY! You leave dragons out of this! Most dragons aren't even all that interested in amassing wealth or power, they're just avid collectors of anything that grabs their interest. The "greedy dragon" stereotype was based on humans misunderstanding the intentions of a few coin-collecting dragons. They had no interest in wealth or power, to them the coins were like shiny rocks or pressed leaves; but the humans couldn't understand that and thought they were being greedy, and the humans hated them for it.

Once upon a time if you wanted to see the grandest, most complete collection of coins, stamps, music, 19th century hats or really any other object, you could ask your local dragon. If they're not collecting the thing you want to see, they probably knew a dragon that does. Nowadays, between greedy humans and anti-dragon bigotry (typically rooted in the "greedy dragon" stereotype), many dragons can no longer afford to keep large, fully complete collections, nor can many handle the social pressure to not appear greedy to humans. This is why so many dragons lash out, are addicts or in poor mental health. They're having to suppress their own wants and needs just to please the humans who care nothing for them.

Don't attach dragons to greedy billionaires. Dragons just want everything to be together; billionaires think everything should belong to them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Jankle and I will put thought to this.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago

This is why when people mistake me for a butch cis lesbian, (Not my fault my hair doesn't grow!) I just let them keep thinking that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The cops knew the attacker and subsequently avoided any real investigation. Classic bastard behavior.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

This is so funny to me that the cops just know this guy. Like oh yeah, Mr. 4th of July. Just some insane guy who attacks people. Whatever, typical Staten islander, I'm not gonna tell him how to live his life. Jail time? For what a little scuffle? In his own shop? Just defending his territory. Never seen a bodega cashier who wasnt violent, you know? If you weren't people would fuck with ya too much.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

Haggling isn't illegal. She needs to sue the deli owner as well for hiring & protecting that shithead. I hope she takes everything they have.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Can we not post paywalled links?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Geez this is where we're at. Fueled by Fox and the right wing needing a bogeyman at all times.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 years ago (4 children)

How? Not in the ethical sense, people are bastards, but in the physical sense. The picture makes it look like she has, um, corn-rows is what I think it is called? So how could they drag her by it?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 years ago

Half of Republicans think Michelle Obama is trans. It's a race thing.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

There is literally an image of it happening in the linked article. Followed by more pictures that help make this make sense. That's how.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Those are cornrows, and hers are long. Other pictures in the linked article show just how long.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Ah, looking closer, they would be long enough to be pulled. Just looked short in the first pic.