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[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago

It's true. Windows 11 looks too different for many people, especially in Enterprise and Small Business. People know the Windows 7/10 look and layout and don't want to learn something new.

Also, when we rolled out 10 in the Enterprise we had our fair share of issues which were eventually worked out over time. Now 10 is finally stable, no one wants to change it again.

Especially in a Manufacturing business where every second counts and any delays cost money, you don't have time for Windows issues.

Microsoft should make Windows 10 a "Pro" OS for Enterprise and support it forever, and make Windows 11 the "Home" OS for families to use at home. After all they only did it to complete with MacOS, which is predominantly used by home users and doesn't feature massively in Enterprise

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Hehehe they can't force me to switch if I don't have secure boot.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Until they let me use Windows 11 without a TPM, how am I supposed to upgrade?

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 years ago (5 children)

I will die before I use Windows 11.

"Upgrading" from 7 to 10 was already painful enough.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Putting the obvious privacy issues aside (which also exist in Windows 10), my friends/family who use Windows actually enjoy Windows 11. Most people don't care about privacy, they enjoy running the most recent windows edition whatever that is.

The problem is that Windows 11 introduced some really arbitrary hardware requirements and people who actually want to upgrade don't have the tech knowledge to bypass them. These sites think people hate windows 11 but they're just too poor to upgrade.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't even understand why Windows 11 exists. I thought Windows 10 was meant to be the last version and then it was continually upgraded. They never add any particularly good new features, so I'm happy with security updates and staying behind a few months on feature updates to avoid being a beta tester.

Oh, and Windows 11 removed the ability to put the taskbar on the left or right, and I would have thought that perhaps teams of engineers and designers paid 100k+ in a trillion dollar company would be able to make that a reality, regardless of whether or not it's only 1% of users (millions of people) that use that feature. I heard the right click menus have been fucked up by some idiot as well, and the sad thing is they probably spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to make them that way, after many many depressing meetings and someone had to task it all out in Azure, whilst gradually losing the will to live, just to eventually make an already existent feature worse. Nice job Microsoft.

I'm happy to wait until Windows 11 is at least at feature parity with Windows 10 and thoroughly tested before I "upgrade". I suspect some things got better, but it isn't worth it.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I would absolutely rather stick with 10 if I could've. Hell, give me back XP.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago

Win 7 is peak Windows for me, but yeah, XP is fine. So is 2K or even Vista for that matter. With every release since 7 MS seem to have been actively looking for ways to make the UI experience worse.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Look at the bright side - there’s gonna be shitloads of not that old enterprise hardware on the market.

During the rise of work from home the last few years, my wife needed a home desktop setup. I picked up a used Dell micro for like $200, installed 10 and we were off. She basically just needed an RDP connection so nothing special.

If she needed to continue past when 10 was supported I’d just throw Fedora on there and go through FreeRDP.

I’ve got another micro running some VMs on Proxmox. I love these things.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (19 children)

I'm running Win7 because I don't wanna fiddle around with Linux as the primary use of my computron is gaming. Steam announced that it will stop running on Win7 starting January 2024. Not sure what I will be doing January 2024 yet, currently trying to decide between Linux and a pirated Win10. Open for suggestions.

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago

the ghost of obsolescence

the 4ᵗʰ ghost of christmas

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I had to get a new PC and it came with WIN 11 honestly it's not any more terrible than any other version of Windows once I shut off all the obnoxious options that are defaulted on. But also I never would have bothered installing it if I hadn't gotten an entirely new system.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 years ago (3 children)

It's what you can't see that is problematic. The surveillance is turned up to 11. Ba-dum Tish!

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 years ago (17 children)

Windows means it's not your computer. Simple as that. Maybe that's OK for most people, sure.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (4 children)

I'd like to try Linux for real one day, I've hap hazardly tried it a few times over the years but ahh fuck it. I barely have time these days to do shit that I want than worry about switching OS's, maybe when I retire one day or kids move out. Probably too late then, MS will have all the data on me that everyone is so concerned about.

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