So it worked when Trump was elected, but now it doesn't... how are these people on TV?
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This guy is a comedian. Not that that was how he was acting in this statement. But that's his background.
He actually wasn't all that terrible 10-15 years ago. He had a show on at 3 am, on Fox News even. The guests were sometimes good too, other funny comedians. Now Greg Gutfeld just sucks. Not funny except to conservatives who find simply shitting on their political opponents the funniest content there ever was. It'd be sad if it wasn't so serious.
No he's not. Comedians are funny.
Someone clearly doesn’t attend a lot of comedy shows. 😛
".....because you have a side that cannot change. Because then that means the admission that their beliefs have been corrupt all the time.”
The projection is strong with this one.
Every right-wing accusation is a confession.
I got the same feeling a lot with Tucker, where he'd say something so specific and so contrary to reality, that there must have been a point to it. I think a part of it is to inoculate the audience against criticism, doubt, and introspection. You flip around, or simply bring up and immediately dismiss what's actually a strong argument against your position, so that people don't take it seriously when it comes up outside of the echo chamber.
We had a Democrat president promise that he was going to be moderate, promise that he was gonna unite the country and now we have a terrible education system.
WTF has Trump done to political discourse in America? This guy is doing exactly what Trump does. Say something that sounds like a sentence that's making a point, but if you go back and look at it written down, it's really just noises surrounding keywords.
The only possible link between poor education and Biden uniting the country is if Biden compromised with some Republican who is trying to gut our schools. (I don't know whether he did or not.)
It's Republicans who are working against education. Trump wanted to get rid of the Department of Education. DeSantis got in a war with the AP program over teaching American History, and turned back LGBTQ+ progress for Florida high schoolers 50 years. The Republican party of Texas once published that it was their platform to make sure that children didn't learn critical thinking, because that would interfere with the parents' rights to always choose what is best for their kids.
Over and over, it's Republicans working to harm our education system, and Democrats working to improve it.
I have a question, how can this be legal? How can this guy say this crazy shit and not being immediately fired and banned from television? It's just unbelievable to my European eyes
Well, to my European eyes it's not strange at all. These are some extreme takes but that's how freedom of expression and press work. My European country has a politician with decades-long career who routinely claims democracy is a bad system, that women should not be allowed to vote etc. Luckily for us the man has near-zero actual power, but still, we can't jail him for talking even if what he says is horrifying.
Usually a "call to arms" is where freedom of speech ends.
Sounds like stochastic terrorism.
Someone should really put a stop to fox news, by the way. It's a little weird that there's like a mass shooting every day but no one has like gunned down Fox news hosts in the parking lot or anything.
Honestly we should unite and perform a coordinated attack on fox news, the same way that anonymous took over russian news stations, russian sites, and even hacked russian GPS.
This isn't just a case of freedom of speech, this is mobilising, terrorising and seditious speaking. The US government themselves know best just how powerful this propaganda is, as they've used it themselves against many governments. They're doing the exact same thing at fox news.
, a book written about how the US government destabilised and dissected government's that they viewed as hostile and communist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jakarta_Method
We have known for a long time that fox news creates soviet style propaganda, but now, with Russia being hostile and China semi-hostile, surely they're trying to destabilise at best, start a civil war at worst. Why doesn't the USA do anything to stop this clear and obvious cooperation with the enemy?
Freedom of speech is not freedom to incide sedition. It doesn't protect people from convincing traitor's to pick up their weapons. Fox news should never have won that lawsuit where they claimed "no rational person would believe it" because that's irrelevant. A good portion of Americans (30%+) are irrational. So why discount them? It's like saying "only a criminal would shoot someone if we paid them to do it, therefore when we pay them to do it, it's not our fault". Well yeah, only a criminal would do it, but you still paid them!
The mass shooters come from the pool of Fox News viewers. Dollars to donuts, if Fox News tried a segment tasked with deprogramming the hell spawn they created, the crazies would target the host in a heartbeat.
i suggest we crack down on fox news
So long as the people do not care to exercise their freedom, those who wish to tyrannize will do so; for tyrants are active and ardent, and will devote themselves in the name of any number of gods, religious and otherwise, to put shackles upon sleeping men.
The wisdom of Voltaire is always worth being reminded of.
“If we can’t cheat our way to victory, violence will be the only remaining path towards it!”
Sincerely, ALL conservatives.
Our electoral system (USA) is a failure, but using that as “proof” elections don’t work is kind of like trying to use the fact that you can’t run Baldur’s Gate 3 on an Apple II as “proof” that computing doesn’t work. It’s not a serious argument, it’s admission of a personal thirst for authoritarianism. Anyone who wants to lick boots is welcome to hire a dominatrix and leave the rest of us out of it.
There's a conspiratorial aspect around guys like these and their apparent playing of the masses like a fiddle, and putting on theatrical and eccentric media facades for their financial gain. It has to be true to an extent, but then again, I think they really are just dumb, like really, really dumb.
I tend to think if it was just calculated self interest that drives their action, you wouldn't see them going this far, too risky for their own self interest. He's a great beneficiary of the status quo and only needs play pretend enough to make sure it continues and yet here he risks having to live with real consequences.
This would be irrational behaviour for someone with any self awareness or master plan. Surely at no time in history has "clown", or "village idiot" been such a well compensated position but he's risking that which keeps him so comfortable for a very ill conceived fantasy. That tells me that that even if he thinks he's cleverly poking the bear, he doesn't know quite how much danger he's inviting.
Gutfield used to be the cool old dad of Fox News what the hell happened there
Same thing that happened to all the cool old dads that went down the Facebook conspiracy death spiral in the last 10 years
We're fucked.
No, we're not. The fear-driven "news" media want you to think that
I’ve thought we were fucked since the early 2000s, so I’m pretty sure the right wing media didn’t convince me. It was the telltale Constitution beating under the floorboards. Also, I assume you’re aware that your enemies can want you to believe things that also happen to be true?
Unfortunately, fear driven media and propaganda works on too many of us. That's why we are fucked.
Liberals and leftists really need to arm up (and train) for when these idiots make good on their threats. We need to be able to defend ourselves and each other.
Fox, I know you are a pathetic pandering shit network, but you can maybe censor your lunatics when they start foaming at the mouth at least. I mean, even my parents are disgusted by this.
Cosplay comedian.
Could learn a lesson or fifty from George Carlin.