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[–] [email protected] 42 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's interesting in this case, this man did the morally right thing, but it was illegal.

And we can compare that with Trump, who was doing the morally wrong, but legal, thing by refusing to show his tax forms. And Trump also continued to do the immoral thing after the leak, by lying and saying they weren't his actual tax forms.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 years ago

Reminds of a quote I thought was attributed to Jefferson "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." Turns out it isn't his, but I think it's still valid.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whistleblowers deserve cash prizes, not punishment.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Problem is, leaking something juicy isn't what makes you a whistle-blower. There was no government misconduct here, just one asshole's PII. Which, as others have pointed out, is traditionally released as part of a presidential campaign but is not a legal requirement.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

🎶 There goes my hero 🎶

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

He deserves a medal.

[–] KairuByte 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’m fine to eat the downvotes to say, he should face punishment for this.

He stole privileged information and leaked it to the public. If this was your tax return, you’d likely be pissed that your privacy was breached.

Just because we like the outcome in this particular case, doesn’t mean we should excuse the actions. The ends do not inherently justify the means.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Here are a couple of the articles the leaks informed: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trove-of-never-before-seen-records-reveal-how-the-wealthiest-avoid-income-tax

So I am conflicted because I'm a moral person who follows the law, but it's clear there are a lot of immoral people following the law who deserve to be exposed. I'm not sure who is right or wrong but I'm glad these articles exist. Just like I'm glad the Pentagon Papers, Snowden Leaks and Panama Papers made it out into the world.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Federal prosecutors announced charges Friday against a contractor with the Internal Revenue Service who allegedly stole the tax returns of a high-ranking government official.

A source familiar with the matter told CNN that official is former President Donald Trump.

The man, 38-year-old Charles Edward Littlejohn, worked with the IRS from 2018 to 2020, according to court documents.

Though the official is not named in court documents, a source familiar with the investigation told CNN the tax returns in question were Trump’s.

“Both news organizations published numerous articles describing the tax information they obtained from the Defendant,” court documents said.

The New York Times and ProPublica both published articles based on tax records of the former president and other wealthy Americans around the same timeframe – in 2020 and 2021, respectively.


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