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[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s so depressing. Our city in Australia had such a good robust tram network and they ripped it all out because they hired an American urban planner that promoted cars is the future. Now instead we have a long car tunnel named after the Lord Mayor that was responsible for it.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Brisbane! Largest act of public vandalism in history, pretty sure it was the largest tram network in the southern hemisphere

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

in the southern hemisphere

On a side note: I'm always amused by grand claims that get ever more specific.

"the largest in the southern hemisphere's third biggest metropolis that has a giant guitar with at least three strings and a large pineapple"

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Remember to ~ask~ demand grade separate transit, folks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Weird it renders right on my app/device. Good to know!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’ve always read that freeways are too steep and turns too sharp for rail, but Brightline says newer European trains are light and powerful enough to make it up the Cajon Pass in the median of the 15, so let’s stop screwing around with a single track for trains in the median. Just take the leftmost lane in each direction. Most of the cost is right-of-way acquisition; let’s use the one we already have. It’ll be better than nothing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The interstate standard max grade is 6% and that's only used when there's no other option over mountains. The limit for standard passenger trains seems yo be 4-5%. So it's not that different, the vast majority of the interstate corridor could support passenger trains. Not freight trains through, those need a much gentler grade.

The US has essentially built a railway network with the interstates, it's just paved over and less efficient.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Also for the extreme cases, don't forget cog railways. The steepest one is Pilatus railway with maximum gradient of 48%. Good luck trying something like that with a car.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

What's a streetcar? A tram?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago
[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Think electric busses, on rail tracks imbedded in the street.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Yeap that's a tram.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 years ago

Traffic, pollution, and the cost of owning a vehicle wouldn't be such big factors in day-to-day life. I'm sometimes floored at average commute times, it adds up to years of your life spent sitting in traffic. Not to mention car accidents.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

Come to Melbourne, Australia. We have trams .

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I'm always impressed how this point is usually happily ignored in the US. You had a sane public transport network ffs. You destroyed it on purpose to now pretend it's not possible.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I saw a stat going around a couple years ago that back at the streetcar peak, you could travel from like NYC to Madison,WI entirely by street car (I'm paraphrasing; can't remember the exact cities.) Does anyone know the stat I'm talking about? Would love to find the source