This is another sharpie map moment. Nature and physics doesn’t give a shit about what map you’re on. The maps are designed to help people make well informed decisions. Purposely ignoring it and sticking your head in the sand just means there’s a greater likelihood you get fucked, not that it’ll magically go another way.
this post was submitted on 13 Jul 2025
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They did it because they didn't want to have to pay for flood insurance. They didn't give a shit about the kids' lives and just wanted to save money.
This "asking to be removed from flood maps" is as common as people disputing their property valuation for tax purposes. In the immediate term, no owner wants to go from not in a flood plain to on a flood plain. Of course the reality is that maps don't dictate nature's behavior, but property value goes down in addition to property expense going up.
One possible solution is government buying out flood prone areas, but I've only seen this happen in more affluent communities. This still leaves some risk, though, since there will always be a threshold where there is some flood (or hurricane or wildfire or windstorm or hailstorm...) risk, but not enough risk to be relocated by the government.
Doesn’t matter why they wanted to be removed. At that point they knew they were in the flood plain and did nothing. Hell, they built more.
One possible solution is government buying out flood prone areas
The proper solution is fining anyone stupid enough to ask to be removed from a flood map 300% of their gross earnings during the past decade, and submitting them to every possible inspection, since they're surely trying to hide other criminal idiocies.
The biggest difference between FEMA's maps and those created by the private sector, is that FEMA does not map rainfall or flash flooding,...
I think that the biggest difference is the fact that private companies are more difficult for wealthy Americans to influence to protect profits.
No, the biggest difference is that those privately made maps are bespoke - ordered for specific regions. Fema has to do the entire continental US with an higher focus on all populated areas while being continuously underfunded by malicious assholes in congress. So their modeling is mostly based on elevation purely out of expediency and because that information is still extremely valuable. It doesn't account for rainfall and flash flooding because that kind of modelling is expensive and time consuming to perform for even small areas.
Agreed, which probably means they were on it because of stuff like documented previous flooding (like when it flooded in the fuckin' 80s and girls died) and that makes it all the more egregious that they worked to get themselves off of it. The camp owner is starting to seem less like a hero and more like someone feeling fully warranted shame and fearing divine judgment.
Camp owner is dead. He really owned the libs!
edit: or he faked his own death to avoid being sued into oblivion 20+ times over