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The title really says it all, but I’m self hosting world of Warcraft wrath of the lich king.

I’m just so shocked that it all works to be honest. It’s blowing my mind still.

I always want to play classic wow, but I play so infrequently that it’s not worth paying a subscription.

It never really occurred to me that I could just host my own server until chatgpt recommended that when I was researching things to self hosting.

It’s not public yet as my upload speeds are too slow.

I think I’m going to set the server up on my laptop so I can play wow while on my 14 hour flight coming up.

I’ve always played the game solo anyway due to my casualness.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

I've been seriously turned off by the grind of WoW. Are you able to do something like reduce the XP level scaling or something so that every level is like 30m and improve drop rates?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

With AzerothCore you can, yes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Update, I downloaded the VMangos database. It looks like it might be possible to edit drop rates with creature_loot_template(ChanceOrQuestChance) and XP gain by using creature_template(xp_multiplier)

I haven't hosted anything yet but it could be tested by editing a Chicken's xp_multiplier from 0.0 to 1.0

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

'I'm not a big fan of the grind. Can you fundamentally change the way experience works to accommodate my personal preferences?"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago

"Yeah, sure, I see no problems with that. Alternatively, I could just boost your characters to max level if you would like?"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You can mod the database for creatures to drop more xp, gold and loot from the looks of it.

[–] neon_nova 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah! And it’s super easy, just find the line that corresponds to drop rate or exp from mob/ questions and change it from 1 to 10 and get 10x.

I have exp and gold set to x2

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah, I might actually play wow since I can reduce the XP scaling by a lot. It goes from 50 mobs at lvl 10 to 600+ to level up at lvl 60. I have a 7mo old no way I have time for that hahaha.

I use SQL for work so I can mod the DB easily to remove the exponential scaling in favor of linear scaling like mob XP scales.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 12 hours ago

The advantage of self-hosted WoW is that you can cheat to your heart's content.

So no more grinding if you don't want to.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago (1 children)
[–] neon_nova 3 points 7 hours ago

I don’t know if I played it much if at all.

It’s been so long and I know for sure that I did not play cataclysm.

I also never got too high of a level in the game either and mostly solo quested. It’s just fun to go around mindlessly.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

ChatGPT was mentioned and now the thread is all about AI being good/bad, as usual.

Anyway, I'm glad you got your server going - hope you enjoy your flight!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I might be mistaken but at the time of writing there was 1 post about AI

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Not gonna go back and search for "AI" but when I read the thread hours ago there were multiple back and forth comments criticizing/defending use of ChatGPT (which is what I meant by "AI" in this case), and this was not at all the point of OP's post.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago (3 children)

ChatGPT said
When i was researching

🧐

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago

The latest LLM's are pretty damn good as a research assistant - that was its original purpose. Using chatgpt as your first go at researching a new subject (like self hosting) is perfectly valid.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I remember when "research" actually meant something. Now it just means "throw it into the black box and get some info that has a 50/50 chance of being completely made up "

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 hours ago

Oh boy, I sure do love the colloquialization of language and how those who were raised on a monostatic definition get upset about their favourite words becoming dynamic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

For dipping your toes into a new topic I think it's perfectly fine. It helps to provide useful pointers for further "research" (in a sense that would meet your requirement) and also manages to provide mostly accurate overviews. But sure, to really dive into this, LLMs like ChatGPT and co. are just some low-level assistants at best and one should go through the material themselves.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

It’s all become quite convoluted now with all the other shit out there but they do actually serve well as a research tool in a more intuitive way than a search engine can

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can ask CharGPT for sources. TBH it’s often a much better search engine than Google, although that’s not hard nowadays.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

Perplexity does a good job as LLM-search-engine-combo.

[–] neon_nova 4 points 1 day ago

Haha, well when searching for games that can be self hosted, it’s gives a list which I can then further research on the web.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 2 days ago (11 children)
[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Oh wow, thanks for the recommendation. This looks perfect.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

That's awesome.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

FYI there are free wow instances out there if you want other humans involved. Turtle wow and ascension.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Turtle WoW is great, I'm dreading Blizzard shutting it down though. I'm hoping they avoid them but I feel their upcoming remastered client might attract too much attention.

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[–] Flyswat 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I did too a couple months back to play with the wife and kids.

There is a mod that enables bots which I guess could be helpful in dungeons and raids. I didn't try it though.

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

While I have heard of people doing this a decade, I have never looked into it.

How was the install and setup process? How is the resource consumption of the server? At one point it seemed one had to supply their own quests. Are there open source quests available? Anything cool I didn’t ask about?

[–] neon_nova 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I just checked the server without logging into the game and it’s using like 106% of the CPU on idle when I logged in and played a little bit. It didn’t change too much but it’s consistently running that high at idle because I guess things in the game world are running so I’m probably going to stop the service and start it when I’m gonna play to just lower my electric usage

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Great to know. I don't know if 106% of CPU is good or bad, but it is not what I had anticipated. Thank you!

[–] neon_nova 2 points 19 hours ago

Other places have said that it’s not resource intensive, and I’ve heard that it can run on pi4 with some optimization.

I wonder if I need to do something to optimize it.

[–] neon_nova 3 points 1 day ago

Install wasn’t too bad, I used a mix of chatgpt and install documentation when I get stuck.

One problem I had was that I was aiming for burning crusade, but and chatgpt told me that Azerothcore supported burning crusade.

So after getting the server up and learning this, I had to find a wotlk client.

The choose of expansion was arbitrary, I just didn’t want modern wow.

There are some data files you have to supply, but they can just be downloaded from github and the guide even links to it.

I’m not sure about resources, but for a small instance, I think it’s pretty light. I’ve only just installed it on a i5-3470 cpu server, and it seems to play fine.

I’ve only played for like 5 minutes as I’ve not had time to play and monitor how heavy it is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I did it like 10 or so years back? It was pretty easy to be completely honest and didn't require too many resources, at least not if you're the only one using the server. You just run the server locally and then use the client to connect to that server. That's basically it.

And no, the game comes with all the quests and everything, you don't need to really do anything else. The downsides is that you'll be locked out of a bunch of content like dungeons and raids since those require groups of 5 or more players.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yeah me too. The biggest hurdle was understanding that the code, dB and scripts need to be in versions fitting together. Until then it was a bit off 🤣.

But as you said, about 10 years back but even on a pretty small vm for me and friends.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I have read that modern servers have np. Bots you can add so you can do dungeons and stuff. I haven’t tried myself. Would love to find a guide on how to set up a Linux host.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

I have one as well, and it's so much fun. It's pretty much just for my SO and me, but sometimes I have friends join. It's super cool having GM commands and all that.

Good work, I hope you have fun with it!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Nice!

I self host Minecraft on our LAN so my kids can play together, and it's super nice.

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