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[–] [email protected] 6 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I admit it. I couldn’t never pay the rent on my own. When I was younger I essentially stayed with whoever picked me. My marriage went on way too long because I needed to finish college/fieldwork or be stuck with a man who hated me and had someone ten years younger he’d gotten pregnant at college…funny that none of us could actually afford to leave each other until I graduated and got out of their way. Because of environment and poor decisions, I put myself and the kids through unforgivable stress. I’m in my thirties now, the kids are almost grown, and I make great money. But I’m an empty person. I’ll give them what I never had though, so they won’t be in relationships to pay their bills. I’m pretty sure one will be an engineer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Sorry to read that, it seems economically if people can get to late 30's paying little rent, having no mortgage they have saved money.

I'm 46 years old and so paying rent from here on till the end is cheaper than a mortgage.

Of course I could not have children.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I think you’re right. If I didn’t have the responsibilities I do, renting a smaller place until expiring would probably be my route.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

I suppose once your kids have moved out, you could always try van dwelling. I did that, for fun, for three years and saw half the world. There is something special, it is in terms of "life style", a true life style change. It is solar panels, double bed, 12 volt fridge, wifi, gas cookers / heating and an open road.

https://www.printernational.co.uk/timmann/vans.htm

[–] crunchy 71 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Same as people stay in unfulfilling, shitty jobs that pay less, just so they don't risk losing health insurance or other "benefits."

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Ugh thanks for an unpleasant flashback :(

Ex was cheating all over town and my only choice for over six months was either put up with it or be homeless

I once told this story on reddit, and the majority consensus was that it was my fault for not working harder or whatever

[–] db0 26 points 2 days ago (3 children)

smug redditors offering unsolicited "advice" are the absolute worst

[–] outhouseperilous 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Whereas my unsolicited advice as a lemming is way more fun. So, to start with, im gonna need you to get an obsidian dagger, and look up where to buy live chickens.

Also, get some gloves, bleach, and antiemetics; this is gonna get messy.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

why an obsidian dagger? do you have something against geologists?

[–] outhouseperilous 6 points 1 day ago

why an obsidian dagger

Noob

something against geologists?

Yes but this is unrelated, how did you even make rhat connection?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're saying I shouldn't divorce my wife because they forget to put the spices back on the rack?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

lol, I have been thinking about rules for a competition where you go on reddit to see if you can get certain types of disproportionate responses:

  • most innocuous foible for which someone recommends a divorce

  • most inoffensive post about Japan that causes someone to complain about WW2 war crimes

  • most reasonable mainstream position that causes someone to call you a tankie

any other suggestions?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Hi there, I see you mentioned Japan.

Did you know that Japan had concentration camps comparable to Nazi Germany during WW2? It was called Unit 731, where thousands of prisoners, mostly Chinese, were subjected to lethal tests involving diseases, vivisection, and other forms of torture. These experiments aimed to develop biological and chemical weapons, resulting in an estimated 200,000 to 300,000 deaths.

The more you know!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I had to help two friends who were in a similar situation, it was stressful for both of them to break up, knowing that there was housing insecurity. Getting all the arrangements together also took months.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Yup. It was traumatic enough that ever since then I've always made sure that my current partner always has enough money in an account under their name to be able to leave whenever they want. It's nice knowing that they're staying with me because they want to.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Women have almost always through history needed a male supporter for housing or they needed to live in family cooperative situations.

[–] ArcaneSlime 4 points 1 day ago

Hell I'm a man and I stayed dating a woman I should have left (because she was abusive) because I couldn't have done without her part of the rent at the time. Shit happens ig. Got a new job and now I'm able to afford it alone, she's gone, shit rules.

[–] db0 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We know pre-farming societies were far more balanced between the sexes, if not outright matriarchical

[–] outhouseperilous 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

When 'women's rights' became a thing,and women could live as independent humans, young widows became an oddity.

I guess you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I think the rise in marriage age and reduction in wars also helped. Used to be a 21 year old mother of two lost her husband in some battle or workplace accident.

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[–] masquenox 14 points 2 days ago

There's a damn good reason why we in the working class are gaslit and prodded into converting our romantic relationships into glorified labour arrangements (ie, marriage) as soon as possible - intimacy requires time and energy... time and energy that, under a capitalist system, must be spent labouring for the parasite class and nothing else.

It's also the reason why any children that results from such intimate relationships must be mass-corraled into glorified creches (ie, our so-called "education system") at the first opportune moment - we can't have the working class spend any undue amount of time actually doing any parenting, now can we?

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Found out a month after buying our new house the reason we never saw our neighbors. They were in the midst of a divorce, but still living in the house, with the wife's boyfriend. So visits were a bit awkward. Fortunately that was right after the housing crash, so they were only stuck in the house for 2 years.

A lovely young couple bought the place and spent a year renovating it to live in with their kid...then divorced 6 months later. I don't think couples should live in that house any more, there's too much bad juju stored up in the walls.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I dunno, renovating a house is hard, especially if you are living in it at the same time. You'd want to make sure your relationship is rock solid before attempting that. That said, kids are hard, you'd want to make sure your relationship is rock solid before attempting that, so yeah, maybe its the house ..

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago

There needs to be a one room at a time rule.

[–] TimewornTraveler 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

this is why more dv shelters/womens shelters need to offer vocational assistance

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

So many decisions get made because you gotta make sure you secure a bag of some kind.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Capitalism doesn’t care about minutiae. It only cares about the end results. Unfortunately, minutiae is actual human lives in this case.

[–] outhouseperilous 1 points 10 hours ago

Quarterly profits. Not end result, or they'd build infrastructure.

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