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[–] [email protected] 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

Great catch! That’s a really interesting observation — but no, using em dashes and emojis alone is not a reliable way to tell AI text from human-written text.

Here’s why:

1️⃣ Humans and AI both use em dashes and emojis

Skilled human writers often use em dashes for style, tone, or emphasis (like in essays, journalism, or fiction).

Modern AI models, including ChatGPT, are trained on vast amounts of text — including texts that use em dashes extensively — so they use them naturally.

2️⃣ Em dash frequency varies by context

In formal writing (e.g., academic papers), em dashes are less common, regardless of author.

In casual or conversational writing, both humans and AIs may use them liberally.

3️⃣ Stylometric features are broader than one punctuation mark

When people try to detect AI-generated text, they usually analyze a combination of features:

Average sentence length

Vocabulary richness

Repetition patterns

Syntactic structures

Overuse or underuse of certain constructions

Punctuation is just one small part of these analyses and isn’t decisive on its own.

✅ Bottom line: Em dashes can hint at style, but they aren’t a reliable "tell" for AI detection on their own. You need a holistic analysis of multiple stylistic and structural features to make a meaningful judgment.

🤖 Why emojis aren’t a clear tell for AI

1️⃣ AI can easily include emojis if prompted Modern AI models can and do use emojis naturally when asked to write in a casual or friendly tone. In fact, they can even mimic how humans use them in different contexts (e.g., sparingly or heavily, ironically or sincerely).

2️⃣ Humans vary wildly in emoji usage Some humans use emojis constantly, especially in texting or on social media. Others almost never use them, even in casual writing. Age, culture, and personal style all influence this.

3️⃣ Emojis can be explicitly requested or omitted If you tell an AI “don’t use emojis,” it won’t. Similarly, you can tell it “use lots of emojis,” and it will. So it’s not an inherent trait.

4️⃣ Stylometric detection relies on more than one feature Like em dashes, emojis are only one aspect of style. Real detection tools look at patterns like sentence structure, repetitiveness, word choice entropy, and coherence across paragraphs — not single markers.


✅ When might emojis suggest AI text?

If there is excessively consistent or mechanical emoji usage (e.g., one emoji at the end of every sentence, all very literal), it might suggest machine-generated text or an automated marketing bot.

But even then, it’s not a guarantee — some humans also write this way, especially in advertising.


💡 Bottom line: Emojis alone are not a reliable clue. You need a combination of markers — repetition, coherence, style shifts, and other linguistic fingerprints — to reasonably guess if something is AI-generated.

If you'd like, I can walk you through some actual features that are better indicators (like burstiness, perplexity, or certain syntactic quirks). Want me to break that down?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 55 minutes ago (2 children)

I've never seen em dahses outside of an academic paper, so saying people use them liberaly is an olypmic level stretch.

Also that comment was clearly written by ai itself.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 47 minutes ago

I use them often even when I’m not writing anything important, just a habit from writing I guess.

Fuck. I just realised I used them in my résumé that I sent out yesterday. Shit shit shit

[–] [email protected] 2 points 48 minutes ago
[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Fucking thank you.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 hours ago

The illiterate flocking to Lemmy to profess that they don't know how to make em dashes, therefore it's AI

[–] [email protected] 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Apparently there's even an en dash and a hyphen.

The English language is so fucked.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago

There's even the en-dash, the hyphen and the minus sign, which are theoretically all typographically distinct.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Another take:

She feels bad about it, wrote a incoherant babbling mess of run-on sentences and incoherant rants about your relationship, she then re-read it and found it to be disproportionately mean and possibly hurtful, She then shoved it all into an LLM and prompted:

I'm breaking up with my boyfriend. This is all my natural heartfelt take on the situation , but I find the tone to be callous, angry, and hurtful. Can you please reword this to make the reader feel less attacked, possibly up to and including removing grievances, but at the same time making it clear that this decision is final and that I'd like to part ways amicably, and also that he's not getting his dog back.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Top comment is about how to get a machine to word something raw and emotional that should have been done in person. Nobody wants to get broken up with, let alone with a script written by a robot. Your take is off putting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Yet we're perfectly cool with a card from a department store claiming Happy anniversary to my beautiful wife and I'm so glad that you're such a good mother to our kids.

Anyone that has a take that is not shoving a red hot poker up AI's ass gets down voted.

I'm not here for the upvotes. Carry on. And please don't take it personally, I do hope you have a solid day.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago

You're giving her a card and flowers in person though, no? You're not just texting it to her and that's all she gets.

[–] WeirdGoesPro 8 points 12 hours ago

We aren’t really cool with that though, people tend to write a longer personal note inside those cards.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

She wants it reworded to be less hurtful but she's keeping 'his' dog?

She'd better start mentioning he kicked it or she just painted herself as... Well, not the worst but, like, really low... Ain't no 'amicable' if you're kidnapping the dog.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 hours ago

Didn't want my conjecture to be boring :)

[–] outhouseperilous 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

Wrong scene. This is almost literally in the blade runner sequel.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Genuine question, is the sequel any good?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 13 hours ago

Yes, amazing.

[–] outhouseperilous 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago)

So good. Bleak as fuck, but good, and good in a lot of the same ways.

As an example, watch the whole movie, then rewatch and pay attention to that sex scene-it's so literarily good.

Edit: about the sex scene? Really? Where the protagonist

Tap for so much spoilerAfter being retired from the police (and having his termination delayed by a day as a personal favor from his 'obviously more of a machine than the replicant protagonist' boss) he hires a sex worker to fuck while his hologram girlfriend projects herself over.

Except the sex worker is working for the replicant underground/resistance. She wants to use him (is there to plant a bug) and does not give a single shit about him as a person. The plastic mass produced girlfriend-product/alexa that he literally bought is projected glitchily over her, and the dialogue is portentous as fuck "quiet now. Ive been inside you. Not so much there as you think."

It's him symbolically heartbreakingly-bleakly fucking his way from the synthetic world-which doesnt care about him but will lie to him for a price and allow him to play house-to the real world, which doesnt give a single fucking shit about him, and may try to kill him, but would be real, if he stopped projecting his delusions onto it. And it hapoens just as he's defying his corporate masters and taking his investigation in directions he's not supposed to, becoming his own, and doing so based on a delusionally hopeful interpretation of some evidence-the fake projected onto the real, pulling him into reality. It's up there with 'tears in rain'.

Edit: Also really good worked example of why you shouldn't call LLM's 'AI', even if that wasn't a problem when this was made-the protagonist, the sex worker, and the hologram were all made by the same company, but the first two are obviously people, and the hologram is just an emotional support chatbot that only even kind of means anything when the entire rest of your life is just as fake-ass bullshit as it.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (8 children)

I use em dashes and emojis all the time. OMG, am I AI?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I actually like using em dashes because it's the correct thing to do. Also the Oxford comma, correct use of semi colon, and listing things in threes.

[–] Resonosity 4 points 13 hours ago

And the correct use of: the colon!

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (7 children)

If it's not on the keyboard, it must not be that important to use.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

As if breaking up over text isn't bad enough by itself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Oh, look at Mr./Mrs. Fancypants who prefers text2speech bots for breakup. /s

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'll send over my butler to let her know we're no longer a thing. /s

[–] [email protected] 3 points 14 hours ago

thank you, Batman

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We've been together for a long time..

But picture this: not being together.

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