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A few days ago I asked about taking the big leap, but I use my PC for work in the arts (voice over, music, digital art, etc).

I've been playing around with Bitwig to replace Cubase and ideally Adobe Audition. It's... a learning curve but I'm willing to make it work if I can get everything about my PC lined up with Linux.

I then discovered Wine and Proton. So, they're basically bridges that allow you to use some Windows programs in Linux? I read they can use vst files with a bit of work, and people have had some success with Cubase, though Adobe is still right out but I'd love to get away from Adobe anyway. Also games??

Is there a difference between Wine and Proton or are they basically just different programs that do the same thing? The big leap might be more feasible than I thought if they do what I think they do.

Edit: This seems like it could suit most of my needs. I need to do more research into it but you guys answered my questions. Appreciate you all taking the time, thanks!

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

So, they're basically bridges that allow you to use some Windows programs in Linux?

They are like really Bad cocaine. Sure, it may work, but if you want to give up that much time, might as well learn an alternative because the next version will need a new workaround.

I read they can use vst files with a bit of work

That's an emulator.

Is there a difference between Wine and Proton

Proton-ge is a fork of proton is a fork of wine, which only exists because Wine isnt made for gaming specifically and proton can't include a bunch of stuff because of legal reasons which enhance gaming further.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Wine and proton are the same valve takes wine and adds some tweaks to it to work beter for games. Wine can work in a pinch but I wouldn't rely on it for your workflow as wine could always be playing catch up when your software updates versions.

Wine/Proton is a translation layer that translates windows system calls Linux system calls. So if wine/proton doesn't have a feature windows has for your knew version then it will break. That's okay for games but for something you need for work that can be a deal breaker. If you can switching to something Linux native will benefit you in the long run.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

Wine can work in a pinch but I wouldn't rely on it

In this case I would say the other way round. Proton works in a container, so getting to the sound interface for example might be harder than just using Wine

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Side note: yabridge may be of help for VSTs

Also, another DAWci recommend is Reaper

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The combo Reaper + yabridge works relatively well for me, did not get all my VSTs back but the basics are working.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It struggled with my NeuralDSP VSTs and BiasFX last I tried

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Comments on Reddit seem to suggest that UI problems with NeuralDSP plugins seems to be solved with some onstallation of DirectX libraries (? Not sure about the technical details) :

was able to fix it just yesterday after seeing someone suggest this:

install WineGUI

use it to install DirectX 9/10/11 and DirectX 12 packages

This instantly fixed the GUI not being responsive, tested with the new Nolly X

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

That may help! Thank you!

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 week ago

As a side note, a couple of things that might be handy for you:

Bottles is a GUI for running Wine things that might make it a bit easier to navigate. It's helped me out a few times.

Also there's an AppDB on the Wine site where you can search for specific software to find out how well it runs/tweaks that people have used etc.

ALSO yeah games are in a pretty good place on Linux nowadays. I have a Steam Deck and it runs a surprising amount of stuff, even things that aren't listed as being compatible. I think the main source of trouble is the online AntiCheat stuff, that's not always compatible with Linux (although sometimes those work too, I think it just depends on the game.) There's also protondb for checking which games work in Linux.

Hopefully some of that is helpful!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proton is designed for gaming and its a fork of Wine, designed for gaming contains alot of tools and patches for gaming compared to regular wine.
Wine is designed for apps, but can be used for gaming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Proton is built on top of Wine in order to make sure games specifically work well.

You can check https://www.protondb.com/ before buying a game (with Steam or otherwise) to insure it works as expected. A lot will work with 0 tinkering but some might next extra command line parameters.

You might get the same result with Wine directly but Proton it doing everything it can to "hide" away those (hopefully small) challenges away from the final user, a gamer (like me) who wants to just sit down and play.

So... the heuristic is basically :

  • games? Proton
  • not games but Windows applications that somehow do not have a better open-source equivalent running on Linux? Wine

Edit: for the anecdote I wrote this reply on my SteamDeck, the gaming console by Valve coming with Steam, and Proton, and running Linux to... just play BUT I also use it to work while traveling. So yes, works like a charm!

[–] rodneyck 1 points 1 week ago

I find using Lutris for gaming is easier, but there is also Bottles, both allow you to setup all the MS junk as needed per game, including options for using Wine's Proton if need be or desired.