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[–] [email protected] 21 points 5 days ago
[–] [email protected] 105 points 6 days ago

I'm deeply disturbed by the genocide the IDF are perpetrating in Gaza.

[–] [email protected] 115 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (12 children)

Aw did the mean words hurt them? Israel's actively ordering bombings of children and shootings of starving mothers. It's like saying "Death to the wehrmact"

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

While I agree that the chant might be a bit crass, I think it's his right to say it. He's saying the army and what it does is shit, and should suffer. I find it very discouraging that such a statement is called antisemitic. The way you frame it is exactly how I see it, it's death to the abusers, to the killers, the soldiers. It's about the violence committed by the army.

It would be as if The Andrew Sisters at a gig in 1943 shouted "Death to the wehrmacht", and people reacted with "well that's quite anti-german innit?". No it's not, it's anti Wehrmacht, just like his chant has something specifically to do with the IDF, not with Israelis.

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Israeli embassy 'deeply disturbed'

Oh gosh, I am so sorry, nevermind.

You know what is deeply disturbing? Murdering and starving civilians, including children.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 6 days ago

So far they have shot 14 people waiting for food today. including 3 children. this is just today, and so far.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Is this how the media would have reacted if you got on stage in the ‘40s and shouted death to Hitler?

Feel like civilians in this country are being held to higher standard for speech than a whole ass Country is being held to for its actions.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

Ya but did you ever consider all the morals and values they taught the younger generations, (post boomers and most individuals who were positioned to benefit from the internet boom) was just another weapon used by capitalism? Things like the Golden Rule, protecting those weaker than ourselves, equality, love, etc were lessons those older than us had no intentions of following. They crushed their opponents and ensured no younger generation would ever be powerful enough to overthrow them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago

Always have been

[–] [email protected] 72 points 6 days ago

israeli embassy can fuck off and stop committing genocide

[–] [email protected] 15 points 5 days ago

Is it as disturbing as your continued genocide, you maniacal bastards?

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 days ago

I am 'deeply disturbed' by nazionism.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 days ago

Someone should put a big mirror on an easel in front of the embassy. Nothing more, no explanation.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 days ago

Nazi German embassy is deeply upset by British Americans wanting to kill mazis

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 days ago

Thoughts? Death to the IDF. shrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago

It's funny that the chud line is to question the loyalty of the festival goers, when they're going to bat for an organisation that murdered three British citizens last year.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago

Israeli embassy: "hey don't shame butchering children, it is in our cultural traditions k?"

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

I don't know anything about any of this, but I know the name Bob Vylan is just goddamn fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 6 days ago (1 children)

They're worth checking out, because they're fucking great.

We Live Here is incredible.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago

That was fucking fantastic.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago
[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I'm deeply disturbed from seeing all the war crimes and snuff film-like videos coming from Gaza every day because of the modern day Wehrmacht but Palestine instead of eastern Europe. Fuck the entirety of IDF and those who support this shit.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

oh no!

anyway

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 days ago

Death to piSSrael, Death to the IDF hamas-red-triangle

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

fuck these dumb ass pigs. they’re killing innocent civillians by the tens of thousands and they want us to feel sympathy for them

i hope every motherfucker in the IDF somehow contracts cancer and suffers for the rest of their miserable lives. fuck these people

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 days ago

They can blow it out their ass like the flames sputtering out of that APC that got iced

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 days ago

Aw poor baby

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago

It’s afraid! im-doing-my-part

[–] [email protected] 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Whilst I'll never agree with such chants, see the thing is whilst this embassy official might not give two shits about the amount of wanton death being inflicted by the IDF, others do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Agree with such chants?

You start your chart with 'death to..' then you're playing the wrong game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I'm not playing games. Are you that concerned about the feelings of Nazis?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

It's an expression fgs. I care not about the feelings of Nazis. I do, however, care a lot about how far we are willing to degrade ourselves in order to defeat them.

And aside from anything else, you are just helping the enemy with this kind of utterance. Look what's happened since, it's been turned into 1) a big stick to smash the bbc with 2) calls to legislate on artistic freedoms 3) antisemitism the topic of the day everywhere again. What about 4 and 5? 4) raise awareness of the genocide 5) actually help palestinians in a more tangiable way

How did we do on 4 and 5?

Well I tell you what's a more interesting question, because if they had just said 'Free Palestine' and 'send your aid money here' or even 'stop the genocide' or something similarly not technically illegal to broadcast, then how different would 4 and 5 be to what they are now? because they'd come without the expense of 2, maybe not 3 either, and as for 1, the BBC would actually have a leg to stand on defending themselves.

So why spoil it for everyone and take two big steps backwards? How about we use language that doesn't make us sound no better than they are?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 days ago

israel committing genocide in gaza is a game?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I left America because both major parties form a sinister coalition that is inimical to the interests of the electorate.

Joke's on me, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You could've done some research before (presumably) moving to the next best example of such a thing in the world

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I did! Turns out I'm a real person in reality, so my options were limited.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sorry, didn't mean to come across so snarky to you, I really just wanted to rag on England (specifically)

I left the UK (not from there originally) because I didn't like it there, but I'd still move there from the USA

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago

I never thought England was a perfect place, but at least there is something resembling a social fabric and it's possible to live car-free.

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