We’ve reached a point where my retirement plan involves suicide. It’s cheaper and I don’t want to go through all the health issues my parents are. Go to any nursing home and look at all the people so drugged up they have no idea where they are. People are just miserable and don’t even comprehend what is happening. That’s not living. That’s being kept alive by your family cause they are selfish.
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What spooks me is that most of the people currently living in these institutions likely would have had the exact same thoughts when they were younger.
The vast majority apparently fail to follow up. Will you? Will I?
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And then come the robots and AI, and there are no jobs anymore. Then they have a problem with too much unemployment.
Not to mention the consumer base that makes this all function collapses.
Whoever owns the most effective killbots at year 0 inherits the earth. Everyone else gets murdered or starves to death.
This is my main issue with it too. I can retire at 72 or later.. in more than 40 years. I'd expect to be replaced long before this, so what's the point?
Part of it makes sense. We live longer and longer, retirement age is something that needs to be adjusted with the human lifespan.
The problem is that our idea of what "work" should be is so awful that people look forward to retiring, and logically complain if they are denied the opportunity.
If our Quality of life is increasing shouldn't we be working less and for shorter periods of our lives?
You’ve seen a lot of oldies that are in working order after 60+? 70+? They are exceptions, not the norm. Longer isn’t healthier. Not on a functional level. Especially for those not in an office which is I think the majority.
We live longer and longer, retirement age is something that needs to be adjusted with the human lifespan.
Should it? We live longer and longer, but we're also more and more productive. 50 years ago, for example, the national labor force produced enough for them and (almost) everyone else to retire after about 40 years of labor. Certainly lifespans have increased, but have they increased more than the productivity of the national labor force? I doubt it. Productivity has definitely increased enough to make up the difference in lifespans, especially since most women now work, meaning essentially double the number of workers. In that case, should we not spend the extra time (which we have earned with our own labor) with our families and friends rather than sacrifice it to some rich prick whose only contribution to society is a portfolio? There's something distinctly dystopian about the idea that living longer means we should dedicate our time to enriching the already filthy rich rather than enjoy life.
... in Denmark? I mean, they're the happiest population on Earth in general.
I'm just across the channel in southern Sweden and there's no way I'm going to retire already in 17 years (67, which I think is the current retirement age for us)
We live longer and longer, retirement age is something that needs to be adjusted with the human lifespan.
I think it has more to do with the baby boom right after 1945. If those older people retire, there isn't enough younger generation to support them, so more people need to work longer, so we don't get too many retired people all at once.
I think it's more of a "can we support the retired" kind of issue - not just "muh money". It's a little more nuanced than that.
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EuroSocdem moment