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[–] [email protected] 8 points 5 hours ago

Not just 2 world wars, but also the two most recent world wars

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

this probably wont be well received, but I think it's pretty funny Iran chastizing germany for starting ww2 while also denying the holocaust. "Screw you guys for hurting so many innocent Russians..... All of them. equally. faith agnostically"

[–] [email protected] 25 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's a very "victors write history" thing to say Germany started WW1, though obviously even if they did it and even for how immensely bloody it was, it would not touch the evil of what Germany would do shortly thereafter. Like, Germany did awful things whether it started the war or not -- it was a stupid imperialist war that had no legitimate side and yet was escalated to an absurd scope -- but it just objectively was not the initial aggressor, though it supported the initial aggressor. It's also bullshit how Fritz Haber gets blamed for "extending the war" when literally anything but imperial defeatism or withdrawal is "extending the war," meaning basically every country "extended the war" except eventually Russia, once the Soviets were able to get out. Who else can be given credit? Serbia, as the country that was initially invaded? Bulgaria, for having limited participation and then surrendering early?

Sorry, I'm not pretending to be an expert on the subject or anything, it just seems so nakedly a "our side won and you were the biggest player on the other side, so it's your fault" situation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Germany had been trying to provoke a karge European war for a decade before WW1 began. They kept telling Austria-Hungary that Germany would support them of the escalated any tensions in the Balkans.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 13 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 17 points 13 hours ago

Israel is little Germany; if they start the next one, I say it's still Germany starting world wars.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 13 hours ago
[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Gavrilo Princip: "am I a joke to you?"

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 hours ago

When Elmer Fudd lights a matchstick to illuminate his surroundings, and that turns out to be a bad decision because he happened to be in a TNT storage room, is the matchstick to blame? Are the big red-orange tubes of dynamite at fault? No, it's Bugs Bunny who created the material conditions for it to happen.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 13 hours ago