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Brett Wilkins Jun 16, 2025

Flight-tracking websites showed dozens of Air Force aerial refueling planes departing from military bases in the United States and heading to Europe on Sunday, fueling speculation of direct U.S. involvement in the widening Israeli-Iranian war.

Military-focused news sites reported that around 30 U.S. Air Force KC-135R and KC-46A tankers were identified by flight-tracking software in what The Times of Israelcalled an "unprecedented mass deployment" to Europe.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 48 minutes ago

WW3 Here we go! 🎉🥳

/s

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 hours ago

Well, so much for peace talks.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I discovered this on another post comment but I think it belongs here more:

https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=nCP3LZoxABs

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

Clearly moon bears being transported.

[–] Resonosity 33 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Wasn't Trump the peaceful dove?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

No.

We had a lot of "I'm willing to make deals with anyone" rhetoric from the Trump campaign that low-info voters took to mean he was anti-war.

But the underlying Pentagon leadership hasn't significantly changed between Biden and Trump (or Bush and Trump, for that matter). Its all the same neoconservative think tanks writing variations on Project For A New American Century for the modern government.

The idea that you were going to elect an anti-war president went out the window during the primaries. Vanishingly few federal office holders have shown opposition to attacking Iran. Less than what we had in 2003 against Iraq.

Everyone from Richie Torres to Mike Lee seem on board with a brand new Holocaust in the Middle East.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Everyone knew he wasn't going to be able to curtail democratic elections without the excuse of a war. This is on schedule.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 hours ago (6 children)

Good thing states control the elections.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 minutes ago

I mean, Trump just illegally deployed the national guard and the marines in California. He needed the state’s permission (which he didn’t get) to deploy the guard and deploying the marines is on a whole other level of illegal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 minutes ago* (last edited 12 minutes ago)

Not anymore. The SCOTUS ruled already that they must have their ballots approved by the Feds, and feds can overrule their ballots.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 46 minutes ago

What happens when the federal and state government disagree?

looks at US history book at 1860

👀

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 hour ago

We've got an election in NYC right now, with a pro-Palestine Muslim threatening to upset Trump's close friend Andrew Cuomo. Weird that nobody is claiming this election is being threatened by Trump, given that NYC has an enormous stock of Trump/Kushner accumulated capital.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Or 50x the chances for hijinx, depending on your angle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the republican run states will bend over whenever Trump tells them to.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That's not true, they are protesting too.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 40 minutes ago

I mean the republican lawmakers, not the citizens.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 5 hours ago

No US president is a peace dove. Between supporting proxie wars to police actions to declared war, they all end up getting people killed by bombs.

[–] [email protected] 52 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is basic dictator playbook, problems in domestic politics, start a war and problems change to foreign policy.

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Putin has done this multiple times now, and Trump is following up.

The United Russia party has had a chokehold on Russian elections practically since the day the USSR was dismantled.

There's a lot more to their socio-economic dominance than Russia just starting new wars. RU controls the national media, they have deep roots in petrochemicals and finance and real estate, they're mobbed up, they have control of the military across the officer's corps, and they're embedded all through local government.

Putin could be the biggest peacenik hippie in Russia and that party wouldn't budge from its perch.

He's doing these wars because he's fascist. Not because he's doing 11D politics chess.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 48 minutes ago)

Starting a war isn't really 11D thing, it is more like "me big army, me attack" vibe. Even the orange orangutan can figure that one out.

Russia has two exports, fossil energy and war. They know nothing else.

Putin and his party are one and the same.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

Everything you said is true of the GOP/American Right as well, and they do it the same way, through oligarchy, it’s just a matter of they having more time to ratchet it down where the US is just getting its official start, although it’s been working behind the scenes towards this for decades too

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

This is why I say Canada, Greenland, and Mexico are not safe. Added to the fact that all 3 countries have lots of resources the US needs.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago

If the US ever try to take out the Panama channel it would fuck up bigly international commerce. Basically only the US military is going to use it because no insurance company is going to cover ships going through them, and without insurance ships can't even leave port.

[–] null_dot 9 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this cause catastrophic domestic problems though. I think the US would tear itself apart trying to go to war with either of those three. Greenland perhaps less-so but still incredibly distasteful.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

They won't defend their own democracy. They won't defend mine.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Search "Altlantic Trident 25"

[–] [email protected] 10 points 5 hours ago

Yeah we're gonna use like 1 tanker for that, 2 on a busy day. The 28 others are going somewhere else

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 hours ago

Under rated comment— is planned excercise in Finland it seems although they don’t mention tankers so who knows

[–] [email protected] 47 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Time to waste hundreds of billions defending israel while our infrastructure crumbles and our citizens still go without healthcare.

Again.

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