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MAGA Whips Up Conspiracy Theories To Muddy An Act Of Right-Wing Violence (talkingpointsmemo.com)

submitted 21 hours ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 109 points 20 hours ago (4 children)

Of course.

Conservatism is nothing but lies.

It starts with the foundational lie that the world was a better place in the past, then immediately segues to the grotequely destructive lie that if only they were given power, they could and wuold return the world to that fictional better era.

That immediately crashes into the simple fact that all of their actions actually serve to make the world worse. Every single thing they do brings more suffering to more people.

But that's okay - they're already lying, so they just lie more. And more and more and more.

And that's where the US is right now.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Conservatism is nothing but lies.

Wow, that's an overly simplistic mischaracterisation.

Conservatism also includes racism, contempt and scams.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 hours ago

All of these are lies.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago

Racism is built on lies. Scams are built on lies. Contempt drives people to lie without fear of consequences.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

The world was a better place in the past. For certain people. That's a lie of omission.

The subtext is that if you're "certain people", the world would be made better for you by making it worse for "not certain people". That's another lie.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Which people though? Because even white people are better off now. It's just the gap between races shrank, and racists hate seeing others succeed where they aren't.

They view other races' situations getting marginally better compared to theirs, as something that makes their life worse.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 19 hours ago

Valid point well made - thanks for that.

I'll be folding that into future screeds. ;)

[–] [email protected] 15 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

The modern concepts of conservative and liberal are born out of the French Revolution. Conservatives were the monarchists, and they still are.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

It's absurd that Trump watches Les Miserables at the Kennedy center when he's politically aligned with the monarchists.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

Explains why the French Revolution often feels romanticized.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

They're not talking about bringing us back to 1970s levels of unionized labor, CEO pay, or taxation though.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago

Oh no - of course not. They want late 19th century levels of robber baron wealth built on worker oppression, sickness, ignorance and death.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

It is legit crazy that this guy was hired as a consultant by a liberal governor of a blue state.

I wonder of Democrats will learn from this and start purging far-right activists and influencers from positions as government contractors and recipients of government grants and aid? Like, wtf was the head of Praetorian Guard Solutions doing on a workforce development advisory board to begin with? In a bright blue state! I might expect this out of Abbott's Texas, but Minnesota?

We keep seeing Dems do this shit. From Newsom and Cuomo backing the wingnut conservatives in their own back benches, from Kerry and Clinton stacking their deputy cabinet positions with "moderate" hucksters from the other side of the aisle, from Harris putting Lincoln Project Republicans on her campaign staff to Biden cutting fat checks to Elon Musk's latest exploding rocket factory to Barack Hussein Obama assigning Michael fucking Flynn to assistant director of national intelligence, Democrats have the survival instincts of a fucking lemming.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

It is legit crazy that this guy was hired as a consultant by a liberal governor of a blue state.

Are you referring to this:

Walz reupped Boelter’s membership to a workforce development advisory board

Because if so, it seems you're grossly misrepresenting it.

It sounds like some rubber stamp bullshit a governor signs off on after his subordinates approve/disapprove candidates. I bet Walz had no idea who he was when he signed off.

Way different than, "hired as a consultant".

Sure, someone in his cabinet maybe fucked up by not checking this guy's social media to make sure he's not a fascist, but I doubt Walz himself had anything to do with it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 31 minutes ago

It sounds like some rubber stamp bullshit a governor signs off on after his subordinates approve/disapprove candidates. I bet Walz had no idea who he was when he signed off.

I think this is absolutely correct. In fact, he was Boetler was originally appointed to the board by the prior Governor Mark Dayton. All Walz did was retain him in the same position he already held.

It appears it is the same Boelter who was appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Board in 2019 by Gov. Tim Walz. He appointed to the Governor’s Workforce Development Council in 2016 by then-Gov. Mark Dayton.”

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

It sounds like some rubber stamp bullshit a governor signs off on after his subordinates approve/disapprove candidates.

Your primary job as governor is to vet the people you're bringing on board your administration. If you're just keeping around esoteric fascists because crypto-nazi Tim Pawlenty recommended him, you're not doing your job well enough.

Sure, someone in his cabinet maybe fucked up by not checking this guy’s social media to make sure he’s not a fascist

This guy's got more than a few foul Facebook posts to his name.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

Your primary job as governor is to vet the people you’re bringing on board your administration.

That is far from the primary job of a state Governor. Do you really think that state Governors primarily sit around and personally read through everyone's social media posts?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago

Do you really think that state Governors primarily sit around and personally read through everyone’s social media posts?

For cabinet positions? They better be doing a damned site more than trolling Facebook. One of the more cringeworthy aspects of the current Trump cabinet is his habit of picking up people he recognizes from TV. And yes, this is arguably the most important decision an executive chief can make - Governor, President, Mayor, whatever.

Thankfully, this asshole wasn't in Walz's inner circle, or there really would have been a scandal. But each of his cabinet picks need to vet and hire their own deputies. And they need to hire their own circle. At some point in this chain of hiring, somebody just waved this psycho through. For a fuck up of that magnitude, Walz absolutely should be firing whomever was in charge of assembling that board. And he should be going back down the line to weed out anyone of similar history or disposition.

And again, this wasn't just some guy with sour Facebook material. This is like putting David Koresh on the government payroll.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 20 hours ago

That's STUPID! WHY would Democrats want to Distance themselves from the People TRYING TO MURDER them? Those are VOTES that they DESPERATELY NEED since they SOMEHOW Keep Losing their Normal Voters MYSTERIOUSLY!