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Has anyone tried Saily? (https://saily.com/) It claims to be an app to easily setup international eSIMs.

I am curious about its setup process and the information they collect. Can you sign up without the app? How about the app on a separate user profile (android)? Do they require ID to signup (or similar)?

It is a part of NordVPN, which gives some confidence that it is not a scam, however Nord doesn't have a good reputation for privacy, but neither do SIM's in general.

Is it worth bothering with anything like Saily for travel, or does the tried and true pre-paid SIM's?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago) (1 children)

Why don't you get one of the anonymous esims from kycnot.me ?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no such thing as a fully anonymous sim/esim even if you buy without identity, the physical phone itself has to login to the cell network and it's very trackable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

Well, of course, if you put it in the same phone that you used with your real name, it's not anonymous. If you use it from your home, you're not anonymous. Cellular networks aren't built for privacy. But that was not the question here.

These sim cards don't require any identity verification or app installation and can be paid for anonymously.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 weeks ago

From: https://support.saily.com/hc/en-us/articles/15751399206172-How-do-I-install-the-Saily-eSIM-on-my-device#Android-Manual

It seems you could install it on different device then. There's also "share eSIM to other person", which likely too just shows a QR code.

I don't know about Saily, but I doubt they would want ID. At least for data-only SIMs, if they do offer ones with phone number.

I did a similar thing with a different eSIM provider when I was concerned about privacy, though eventually I did put it on my phone.

I don't know what else to use on Linux to get disposable Android containers.

Anyway, while it is not related to privacy, they also seem quite expensive. At least for Europe. I don't know where you're going. I've used BNESIM, which funnily is cheaper than local SIMs for small data amounts (like 1 or 3GB), especially with SIMs without expiration. That can be used without app for sure, but I've had to use non-blocking DNS.

Anyway, whatever you choose, use virtual payment cards. Something like privacy.com. There's a ton of eSIM providers and I am sure they're not all super safe and legit. My bank provides those thankfully.