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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Betcha scrubbing them in the sink does too. It's just harder to set up a controlled study.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I wish they would have done that. Would be interesting to see. Hand washed plastic containers are subjected to much more mechanical scrubbing action, but much less heat.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago

My dish sponge is plastic.¯_(ツ)_/¯

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Dishwashers usually wash hotter than you do in the sink & reuse the water, so I'd imagine they also produce more microplastic in the process.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Hotter yes, but no plastic-on-plastic scrubbing. And not reusing the water wouldn't change the amount of plastic, it would just be diluted in a larger amount of water. My guess would be, larger particles. But I can see why that would have to be its own, more complicated study. Because so many more variables.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Do you know that water with microplastics doesn't cause even more microplastics? Seems reasonable to me - the existing microplastic should be ground even finer, and also cause more microplastic to be ground off.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Interesting thought, we'll have to include it in our study. I posit that the microparticles from hand washing will be larger anyway, because method, and will include plastic from the scrubber as well as the containers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There's a good chance! Really depends on the impact of temperature, though since we're still waaaaay below the melting point of plastic, intuitively I'd agree with you.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

So where do we get our funding? I'm thinking about a billion, if we call it The Big Beautiful Golden Study, sponsored by plastic and dishwasher manufacturers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

No no no, you have to think about it differently. Neither of those industries will want to sponsor something like this. Instead we have to go with their natural enemies - and was is the opposite of plastic (i.e. what is non-plastic)? Obviously concrete!

[–] [email protected] 24 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Basically any situation where plastic is warmed is a source of microplastic contamination

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 weeks ago

Basically any situation where plastic is ,~~warmed~~ is a source of microplastic contamination

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Probably mechanical abrasion too. Like car tires. Or your carpets/rug. Or your toothbrush. Or your nylon/sport/athlesure wear. Or soft, non-natural blankets, haha. I bet your furniture, too...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago

wool carpets for the win.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And yet somehow it lasts forever in a landfill.

We can't win.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Just wash your dishes in a landfill.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

So that's why Oscar is always hiding in the trash can grumbling!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

water with cleaning chemicals probably leaches some out too.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

And people are grossed out when they learn that people can have enough micro/nanoplastic in their brain to make a disposable plastic spoon (2g). :)

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (2 children)

It's up to a credit card now (9g)

Source

[–] [email protected] 12 points 3 weeks ago

When i die i want my brain plastic to be used for a warhammer figurine!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The methodology used to get that result is supposedly very questionable.

I heard it here:

Science Vs: Is There Really a Plastic Spoon in Our Brains?

Not to minimize the impact of microplastics, but the credit card amount is probably way off.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

No offenses, but I'm gonna put a lot more weight behind a peer reviewed Nature paper, rather than some random podcaster.

The explained their methodology pretty well. They extrapolate the microplastics amount from a small bit of cortical tissue, and compared it to previous results. Yeah there might not be as much in other parts of the brain, but we don't have a reason to think it would be drastically different.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

the microsplastic keep my brain smooth and flexible :3

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Neuroplasticity

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

This made me chuckle

[–] photonic_sorcerer 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The overall plastic mass equated to about 6 milligrams per person per year, or about a quarter of the weight of a grain of rice

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Multiply by nr of persons and years...

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, that is what “per person per year” means

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 weeks ago

Well I don't want my Vitamin P to be covered in bacteria.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Plastic is poison.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Contaminating what? My septic tank that gets emptied every 10 years?

[–] swampdownloader 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Where do you think the truck that empties your tank goes?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No clue. Guess thats what im asking.

[–] swampdownloader 3 points 3 weeks ago

They haul it and dispose of it in the sewer.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

It goes with the water that leaves your septic tank.

A septic tank is only meant to separate the water from oils and sludge.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Really? So all my piss goes right thru and into my yard? If it filters out and stores solids wouldn't it also catch the microplastics too?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago

Depends on where you live. Mine goes trough the septic tank towards the sewer. A lot of houses also just go directly to the sewers.

And no, many microplastics are too lightweight to settle with the solids.