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, whether they're 15 year olds getting poisoned by 
and Andrew Tate or 50 year old divorce dads getting poisoned by, well, 
it kind of sounds like he understands but doesn't care. and i think a leftist could thereby conclude that it was a bad depiction of the right if rightists can get some enjoyment out of it, but i would argue -- without totally endorsing the game as a profound political text -- that it rightly understands that fascism is a cult of rightful strength frustrated (betrayed, in their telling). given this, there's no way it wouldn't appeal to them, unless it told a left triumphalist narrative in which the right is weak, removed, easily defeated, and only propped up by means of deception and schemes, that is, if it told a rightist narrative for leftist ends. Gary the Cryptofascist needs a story where his guy is the strongest, coolest motherfucker on the planet but he still loses, because that's the only way he can understand his own circumstances.
If nazis and nazi ideology were only presented like a Mel Brooks movie, chuds wouldn't be able to comfortably absorb or emulate it. Too bad that isn't really a viable solution across media, especially because of the backlog of what they already absorbed and now emulate. 
I like Mel Brooks, I love The Producers, and I love similar movies like Jojo Rabbit, but where would a cyborg ninja come into those? Laughing in their faces is a lot of fun, but eventually you have to start cutting their heads off.
I like Mel Brooks, I love The Producers, and I love similar movies like Jojo Rabbit, but where would a cyborg ninja come into those?
I actually can imagine a cyborg ninja in a Mel Brooks style movie, and I would pay to see that. 
Mel Brooks makes the MGS movie. It's the only way it would fucking slay
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For the highest profit they need to appeal to all the audiences. For profit writing will always choose to make the bad guys as strong and as cool as possible in order to offset the fact that framing them as the bad guys has potential to alienate a part of the potential audience who finds themselves on that side.
You could make them snivelling weasels nobody would like quite easily. But it would be less appealing to part of the audience. The choice to write them as strong and cool is a profit driven one.
I think you would still have strong and cool villains, yes even fascist ones, without profit motive because strong and cool villains are just fun to write. If every villain was a sniveling weasel media wouldn't be very much fun. I like a good charismatic villain.
And I mean, its also reflective of reality. Some real world "villains" ARE strong/coolaesthetically/charming/charismatic/interesting/complicated/(initially has good motives but goes off the rails with their methods)/havegoodqualitiesaswell ect ect. Its good to have a variety.
You could make them snivelling weasels nobody would like quite easily. But it would be less appealing to part of the audience. The choice to write them as strong and cool is a profit driven one.
Hence why Tolkien wins (in this very narrow thing, the rest is a bit 
) Grima Wormtongue is an absolutely detestable low-level villain that nobody thinks is cool, but he's also the reason Saruman, one of the "cooler" villains, dies, both in the book and in the movies.
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sniff Zhe downfall of irony ish that itsh humor comesh from maintaining a dishtance from that which it critiquesh, a dishtance sniff which makesh it eashy to co-opt. Think of conshervatives watching zhe Colbert Report thinking it'sh their version of the daily show and sho-on and sho-forth. sniff Only that art which over-identifiesh with itsh target and embracesh those worst esshential ashpects of it, like zhe polish punk band that dresshesh up in nazi regalia, can avoid such co-optshion.
O wise, learned anti-Tito anti-Yugo scholar, wouldn't that make the art indistinguishable from that which it critiques?
I love how in hindsight everything Zizek ever says is just tricking the left into acting more embarrassing. How did we not notice
The curtains are blue
I’ve noticed that when leftists see a sympathetic villain who’s also cartoonishly evil for the sake of plot, the villain will be critiqued to death and ultimately, there’s either critical support or no support for dumb writing.
But conservatives will see a caricature of themselves and have zero reflection and become jealous that there’s no one as evil as that villain in real life for them to support. Like, I know a lot of people on here who enjoyed Death of Stalin despite its liberalism, but I can only imagine conservatives threatening to kill the director of Death of Trump and following through
Thars cause we believe in something and they don't
Peace Walker has Big Boss compared to Che. Rising is for chuds. MGS is the ultimate centrist game.
I told you all that "Armstrong was right actually" chuds were real! I told you! 
That is the go to, the gold standard for what these kind of people think "politics" is. Its hilarious and non-euclidian dusturbing at the same time
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MGS has bad guys? I just assumed it was an offbrand mecha anime in the shape of a game
IDK if you're joking, but mecha anime are extremely political.
Also this is the guy they're talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4JLQQvAx4U
Where's that Green text about people being idiots who will blindly agree with even the most absurd villains so long as they're charismatic enough? Ironically, specifically about Armstrong?
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