Ukraine cannot guarantee anything except losing the war with Russia.
Slop.
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It's currently ambiguous which side this statement supports.
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Nobody on hexbear supports a side in this war; they just want it to end, and are bitter about Ukraine's leadership continuing to hold out while its people keep dying in a war that they can't win without massive NATO intervention, which is not coming and would cause a nuclear war if it did.
I mean, I hate Putin and the politics of the Russian Federation for the most part, but if they wanted to invade and dismantle Germany right now I'd support it.
That's because it's not a statement of support. It's a statement of material reality.
Zelensky can't even guarantee his own safety, this is rich
Well he can from Russia by not murdering Putin. If they killed Putin his own life would be forfeit and I suspect that's a big reason Russia doesn't kill him. That and they don't want to martyr him when he's going to grow increasingly unpopular. But it leaves a kind of line uncrossed to not give justification to the Ukrainians doing that because at that point Russia not only nukes Ukraine but they probably have to nuke some of their supporters, perhaps Rammstein airbase in Germany, or some big NATO base in Poland or the UK or some US proxy force that allows them to express their displeasure and inflict pain and dissuasion from ever doing that again without directly hitting the US in a way that forces them to hit Russia back directly.
From the nazis in his own regime is another matter but he does seem to have consolidated power during the course of the war by removing rivals and adversaries so he may be quite a bit safer than he was at the start of the SMO. I think honestly if Trump could get rid of him super easily with a guy waiting in the wings he wouldn't mind it because of the personal disrespect and lack of groveling and ass-kissing he displayed to him.
I mean, he sorta has for the past 3 or 4 years
By being a better option than the azov nazi scum to replace him would be?
Yo, so unrelated question for you. I see this community is always hyper fixated on calling Ukraine Nazis (glad you specifically pointed out Azov instead of broad gesturing). Calling out Nazis is always a good thing to do, however my understanding is Russia also has a significant Nazi problem particularly in their military as well.
So for real, I'm actually curious here and asking a genuine question so no need for intense emotions to anyone who replys, but why does hexbear not seem to care at all about Russian Nazis, or atleast I haven't seen anyone in this community criticizing or brining it up.
My best guess is that Ukraine is supported by the west and that's the only reason it's fixated on here, but I don't know everything and could be totally wrong (that's why I'm asking)
Russian nazis aren't in positions of power, whereas in Ukraine they run the intelligence branch, they're mayors, they're police chiefs, they're in the cabinet. Azov wasn't like a "kind of" nazi militia, they were explicitly nazis and the Ukrainian government has taken them into the military and use them as elite troops. Russia's militarized nazis were in the Wagner group, which you might remember were used in brutal and unforgiving ways which conveniently liquidated of a bunch of them. It's impossible to identify why the Russian government chose to use them as expendables, but it sure seems like a decision based on not valuing the lives of nazis whatsoever. Furthermore, Russia never had a fascist government engaging in pogroms and ethnic cleansing, whereas Ukraine has the Banderite fascists in their history and they officially venerate them. They are systematically renaming things with Soviet names to name them after Banderite scum. In 2014, the US backed fascist factions who overthrew the government and murdered opposition party supporters en masse.
Then there's my "favorite" CIA-related detail about this, Project Aerodynamic (link intentionally broken because it's linking directly to the CIA website) cia dot gov/readingroom/docs/AERODYNAMIC%20%20%20VOL.%201_0118.pdf
CIA started relocating nazis and banderites to Ukraine in the 1950s with the explicit intention of empowering a fascist opposition with the ultimate goal of destabilizing the USSR and creating a fascist breakaway state. They never stopped this type of thing, that's why Azov were acting as the CIA's pawns on the ground as early as 2014.
Thanks for your response as well, you mentioned a lot of stuff I should read and learn more about. Had no idea about the CIA Nazi project.
I have one mild critique not really related to the bulk of your comment because I'm just not educated enough to reapond to the rest as of now.
but it sure seems like a decision based on not valuing the lives of nazis whatsoever
IMO, there is significant evidence to support the idea that the Russian government doesn't value the lives of anyone, what so ever. Particularly anyone in the army, nazi or not.
Well that’s just not the case and I would encourage a little more reflection on that. Perhaps considering ideas of Western Chauvinism.
So I read the adl page on Western Chauvinism and this wiki page Chauvinism and don't understand how it relates to me saying Russia doesn't value human life. I don't think America values human life either, am I misunderstanding?
You're assuming Russia doesn't value human life because you've been fed that idea your entire life, and the reason you're certain is that you know America doesn't so Russia must not either. That is chauvinism.
The reason I'm certain is not because America doesn't care so Russia doesnt. I said "don't think America values human life either" because the documentation I read about Western Chauvinism sums up to "unreasonable belief in the superiority or dominance of one's own group or people," so I highlighted In my reply I don't think America is better or values human life either because I thought they were suggesting I thought America was better.
I am certain from the hundreds of videos I've seen of russian life being thrown away to gain no ground. Sure Ukraine possibly does similar tactics and I'm just not aware cause I'm only fed western approved combat videos from one side. But I didn't say that because
the reason you're certain is that you know America doesn't so Russia must not either
Link literally anything you keep referencing. Everything you say is "I heard" or "I saw" without any attribution. You're a western chauvinist.
Snip below are from a Russian military blogger/service man called Vozhak Z describing how his company is used in meat wave assaults, translated by Wartranslated (link to orginal post translation post, warning its shitter. Link to original telegram post by the Russian military blogger)
While Wartranslated does support Ukraine he is reputable and posts accurate information. Obviously biased coverage but still accurate. Provide sources proving otherwise if you want to protest. LDPR (so not true Russian) complain of very poor conditions and leadership/support/care if they live or die
I really don't have much to send over since my phase of watching Russians die was ~2 years ago and on telegram it is nearly impossible to search for these 2+ year old videos. But I can just look at top posts on r/UkraineWarFootage.
All following links NSFL 3 Russian service memebers walk in no mans land with no support of any kind, get hit by FPV drone and likely bleed out and die Lone Russian pushing by himself, dies by drone Unarmored jeep like vehicle pushes the front with too many people onboard, hits antitank mine and everyone dies BMP with "meat Armour" carrying ~15 service members on top with no Armour or protection at all, they all die violently Pushing the front line in completely unarmored vehicle, hit by FPV drone More meat Armour, ~15 soldiers riding on top of BMP, hit by FPC
I could keep going on but I assume you probably wont watch the videos or care at all, and you will still tell me I'm wrong. Plus I don't really like watching people die at this point in my life so I sorta wanna stop looking as well. Point being, since the invasion its very common to see videos of ~15 - 50 Russians pushing a front with no or very little support, usually meat Armour style where they ride on top of the a BMP that flings them off and than trys to run away before its killed. Maybe thats changed in the past year, but I dont know. Again I stopped following this kind of content a while ago.
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Three soldiers in a field isn't a meat wave and surely you know this. I'm going to blow your mind but you can also find videos of Ukrainian troops in identical situations. When you're moving behind lines, you may not know drones have penetrated the line of contention. This happens to both sides. When you're moving near front lines, smaller groups ensure you mitigate losses from drone attacks. Again, both sides do this
You do not know what you're talking about and you're deep inside the delusions of Western propaganda despite fancying yourself no longer affected by it
In Russia, Nazis like the Wagner group were used as cannon fodder, given poor supplies, and had their leader assassinated. In Ukraine, Nazis like the Azov battalion are directly integrated into the military command structure, given the best equipment, and are the ones using other people as cannon fodder. Some non-nazi Ukrainians sign up with the Nazi factions because it's more likely to survive than if they were snatched off the street and conscripted into a meat grinder regiment. No one in Russia is doing that, which shows how differently they are treated in each country. These Nazis are also celebrated by the west, like how Canada had a standing ovation in parliament for a literal SS veteran because he "fought against Russia in WW2."
when has russia attempted a decapitation strike?
Are our history textbooks just going to be filled with genai slop after a certain point? I guess the better question is if Ukraine will still exist in the history books in a few years.
Future cultural anthropologists will treat 2020 or so like a kind of K-T boundary in geology. There's a bright line there dividing before and after, and composition of all written records after the commercialization of LLMs will be hopelessly contaminated by the fallout from a catastrophic event.