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[–] [email protected] 187 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Publicly available factual information is a threat to an authoritarian regime

[–] [email protected] 110 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wikipedia, archive.org, and any similar essential services ought to be migrating their hosting and organizational headquarters to outside the US ASAP.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's not something you can just do. All of there employees are Americans.

It would be better if they were spread across many countries so that one place couldn't cause a problem.

[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 month ago (1 children)

We have to protect Wikipedia. We have to.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago

If they take it down we'll make it again.

[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 month ago (3 children)

All you selfhosters out there, this is the cue to make your mirrors

[–] 7U5K3N 32 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Got my snapshot from Jan.

It's only 20gb.

You need an offline viewer. That's a snap /flat hub install. Kiwix I believe

[–] zer0squar3d 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Says ~110gb for all of english version via kiwix. Did you exclude images or something?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 month ago

Yes, they’re are different versions. Maxi is the 110GB one, there is also a nopic version that is quite a bit lighter.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Just started, great suggestion.

I can't believe this shit. 2023 me wouldn't believe I'd be doing half of the things I'm doing now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Just wait til 2025 you couldn't possibly believe what '27's got in stock :p

Though, any server schenanagins That may interest me for some hypotheical good in the world?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

No need

Install the free offline reader software from here

https://kiwix.org/en/

Then grab what content you want from https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/

Here's English Wikipedia, with pictures from 2024 https://dumps.wikimedia.org/kiwix/zim/wikipedia/wikipedia_en_all_maxi_2024-01.zim

names with maxi have all the pictures names with mini few pictures and abridged content names with nopic have no pictures and abridged content

if it says science or basketball, it's just things flagged as science or things flagged as basketball.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Was weighing some options and think I'll be deploying this, thank you.

[–] [email protected] 54 points 1 month ago

They literally don't generate any revenue. Wikipedia is quite literally the definition of a non-profit.

Also, trump is barred from running non-profits due to fraud in NY, I feel like that should disqualify him from making these kinds of decisions.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 month ago

Good news and fun fact, the entirety of Wikipedia can be downloaded quite easily.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download

[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Does Wikipedia receive federal funding? If not, people can shut right up.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I think it's in the single digit percentages of their funding.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They're pretty flush with cash still. Trump can go after them, but for what? They'd need more corruption than they have in the judicial system today. They'll get there eventually, but they don't have it yet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It’s not that there is no danger, but I don’t see anything immediate.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is there any way to decentralize Wikipedia? P2P wikipedia? Because that seems like the best long term solution to this.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yes, start with a mirror. A download is enough for yourself, but mirrors retain what is needed to rebuild the database. You will meed a lot of storage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I torrented the text of english wikipedia one time and deleted it a few weeks after to make space for my Monero node. What I meant by "decentralized Wikipedia" would be not only the files being stored in multiple locations but there also being some sort of system (including moderation I suppose) to broadcast edits across the network

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll have to stop you right there, mate. You are reinventing blockchain.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

It's more akin to torrenting really, I stumbled upon Wikipedia over IPFS

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wikipedia over IPFS, it seems to be a work in progress, but its something

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

that's actually pretty cool, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

How would that work?

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 month ago (2 children)

We need a federated Wikipedia (Fedipedia)

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

I feel like that is a mixed bag

It really isn't bad as is

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

To be fair it is a little left leaning and the editors sometime massive jerks.

However, it really isn't bad at all. They do a pretty decent job of publishing factual information and Wikipedia is useful to a lot of people. Even if it was publishing propaganda they would still be protected under free speech. There are way more sketchy non profits than Wikipedia. It is kind of scaring that it is now a target

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Reality has a liberal bias

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It really doesn't

Bias is a truly human thing. It comes from applying emotions to facts. In reality there are no right answers and thus everything will always be biased.