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The fucking entitlement of some people. It boils my piss that people my age are trying to do the same sort of gaslighting to young people as others did to my generation.

Young people, please don't fall for it. They're just trying to get you to be a good little workhorse. My peers fell for it and they're all burnt out tired husks now.

My skin crawls whenever I hear people my age talk about "Lazy young workers." As if ten years ago people weren't saying the same shit about us. Maybe your spirit got broken and now you want to break the spirit of the next lot, I don't know. Whatever it is it annoys me.

The funny thing is, the kinds of assholes that complain about "lazy entitled sensitive workers not getting shit done" are usually the ones making the workplace less productive imo. They make everyone miserable because they turn the place into a panopticon of "am I working hard enough?" And if you joke or show any kind of joy at work you're not working hard enough so the workplace becomes depressing.

I hate generational warfare, I hate protestant work ethic, so mix the two and I become rage incarnate.

The worst part is when you get a young "pick me" who is like "I'M NOT SENSITIVE LIKE THE REST OF MY GENERATION I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT WE ARE LAZY." It's fucking sad.

EDIT: AND ANOTHER THING! It's fucking ableist too! No Darren, the kid isn't too sensitive, he has fucking PTSD.

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And it never changes...

At least some communities online are open to talking about it, I guess. Still feels like brainworms leeching off their hosts, though.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This shit's been going on since at least 1349

Because a great part of the people, and especially of workmen and servants late died of the pestilence, many seeing the necessity of masters, and great scarcity of servants, will not serve unless they may receive excessive wages, and some rather willing to beg in idleness, than by labour to get their living; we, considering the grievous incommodities, which of the lack especially of ploughmen and such labourers may hereafter come, have upon deliberation and treaty with the prelates and the nobles, and learned men assisting us, of their counsel ordained:

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago

Yeah...it's such a struggle lol. I appreciate you adding to my old screenshot, though. I missed how well-read hexbears are.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

IIRC there's ancient Greeks complaining about similar shit from like 3000 BC lol. Boomer is a state of mind and Plato's parents probably whined he spent all day ~~shitposting~~ debating with plebs at the forum instead of watching goats or whatever the fuck.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago

The 1349 one stands out to me because I learned about it when the Brandon regime was busy cancelling all the pandemic health measures for the economy

[–] [email protected] 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I worked hard, had more savings built up than I'd ever had before, so much I was able to even help cover a friend's cancer treatment!!!!!! Was looking at preparing to do more stuff and then my life fell apart all of a sudden, lost my job, crippling depression, now I'm broke and would be homeless and starving if my parents hadn't been able to step in and support me (for now? idk how long but I'm still incapacitated and not really thinking about long term survival right now).

But it just really drives home how fucking pointless this racket is. My mental health went kind of to shit from working so much, it was hard on my relationship and that was one (not the main, I think but a non-negligible one) contributor to it falling apart and my life getting ruined.

Fuck this racket, fuck capitalism, fuck work culture fuck it all. Yeah I don't want to work anymore, it's pointless and everything I worked for, all those savings, just fucking evaporated from one big life crisis that may not have happened if I hadn't even been working so much.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Theyre right. about me st least.

I dont wanna fucking work anymore. Im fkn tired. My back and knees hurt from crawling thru tunnels to fix broken pvc and cut out 75 year old cast iron. My hands hurt. My feet hurt from constant 14 hour shifts.

Im wrecking my body and the last bit of good health i have left so rich assholes can have swimming pools, and bedroom sized showers that use 5-10 times the EPA's water usage guidelines because fuck everyone else.

Im tired boss, or whatever the meme is.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Nobody wants to hire anymore

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

Beat me to it.

Our whole generation is having a hard time ever starting our lives because employers are basically just ignoring us to death.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I feel immensely lucky to have a job where I can do nearly nothing for most of the time and there’s not a goddamn thing any micromanaging asshole can do about it

>drive to airport

>meet crew, exchange pleasantries

>preflight briefing, we’re ready, let’s rock and roll

>plane checks out, board the pax

>call for pushback, get us out of here

>taxi taxi taxi

>cleared for takeoff, thrust set, lfg

>climb to cruise, deal with asshole controller

>coast out over Pacific Ocean

>12 hours of nothing

>pull out novel and crossword puzzles

>position report every hour

>shoot the shit with other planes over the radio

>relief time, clocking out of consciousness

>relief time, back in the hot seat

>1 more hour for crosswords

>coast in to China, approach briefing, let’s land this thing

>touch down, taxi in, everybody get off

>breeze through crew customs line

>get in van to hotel

>eat sleep repeat

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I feel like being a commercial pilot is similar to my job, in that it's pretty chill unless something outside of your control goes wrong, at which point it becomes immensely stressful.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It boils my piss

owl-pissed I love your way with words

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tbf I really don’t want to work anymore

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

Doing nothing should be the ultimate goal of humanity. I want to lay in the grass like a sheep, listening to birds and eat stuff.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's not like the work is making the world better. We're not piling sandbags before a rising flood and the young people won't get off their dang smart phones. The "work" is like selling insurance for wireless earbuds or putting seventeen pumps of seasonal-themed sugar syrup into a latte. Fuck off. If anything this "work" should be done poorly. Because it's killing the planet and putting microplastics in our brains. We're generating revenue for the fascist misogynist tech sector patriarchs by zapping our brains with ad riddled media because, apparently, that generates revenue in this stupid fucktodeath world. Somewhere out there thirty million kids are getting yelled at to buy a product by an AI generated voice and that's the reason some fucking dipshit who thinks "roko's basilisk" is real can afford to buy a giant house.

spoilerscrem-aaaaaaaaa

Whining olds should thank their lucky stars this awful machinery is able to coerce even lackluster participation from young people. Because they should be murdering all of us in preemptive revenge for what we've done to them.

spoileraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

You're right, I don't want to work, I don't even want to leave my house. Piss off already.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago

Yo, same, UBI when

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

People dislike doing things that are unrewarding, more news at 11.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

boils my piss

Yep, that's Dirt_Owl alright classic

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

I used to have that people-pleasing hard-working country-boy attitude. Long long ago. It died when I realized no business gives a flying fuck about me and will pay me next to nothing and smile to my face and pat me on the head.

Now I can't even fake that I'm a hard worker. I don't care enough. I just want the check and I'll do the minimum to get it.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm a burnt out and tired husk right now, but thats only because I'm job hunting as a fresh graduate...

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I-was-saying

I like my job but I don't wanna work

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Everyone at my work who's younger than me works way harder. Often it's cause they're younger and aren't a very experienced and indispensable part of the business,my being canned would fuck the place up BIG time so I operate with a lot less fear and really try to endorse efficiently over hard work and also cause it's a kitchen to get people to stop giving 'help' that isn't asked for 'stop trying to help me and help me' yo paralhrase Morpheus. Where say there's an order for 3 pizzas that's a one person job and often someone will drop whatever they're doing to go help, that isn't necessary or useful, keep doing what your doing and let people both ask for help when needed and also when you go to help someone they're thr one cling the shots, the asker should instruct the person helping and the helper should ask what helps best. Having people jump in and finish orders that are 3 chits away from what I'm doing doesn't actually do anything for me. 'What can I do for you?' Is the first thing to say when offering help. Otherwise you're imposing 'help'

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah I think it’s true both ways right? People don’t want to work, because working under capitalism sucks, and then that creates a shitty environment for everyone involved. And then people being pissed for that but not recognizing it’s because of capitalism and instead think it’s a personal defect are assholes and that creates a shitty environment for everyone involved. And it’ll keep getting worse, on both ends of that. And that’s just how the decay of the empire is gonna go. It’ll suck to have your surplus value exchanged for your labor, and it’ll suck to purchase anything from anybody. Until everything breaks

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The cognitive dissonance of the generational slap fighting frustrates the hell outta me. Take any social commentary, documentary, movie, involving young people from like 1960 until today and you’ll see the exact same young people bashing over and over again.

What especially fucks me up is that it seems like people want to believe this weird, sad fairy tale that “we’re the last good & sane generation.” It’s painfully obvious to me that there are good and crazy people of all age groups and walks of life why are people so entrenched in the ideal of stereotyping??

yells-at-cloud

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

100-com

It boils my piss

does this idiom mean your fosters is warm or that it burns when you go to the loo?

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

To paraphrase a certain Karl Marx, from each according to their ability, to each according to their needs.

Instead of having a bunch of BS jobs that don't actually contribute to society, we should have a society that meets everyone's needs first, and then let the people contribute back to society in the way that they can.

I think more people would genuinely want to "work" if they could work on their passion projects, or would agree to work somewhere because they actually want to do the thing to contribute back to society.

If you're reading this and saying, well, nobody would want to do [insert position], then there's no excuse for not devoting resources to either automate the task or improve working conditions to make that no longer the case.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

there's always someone willing to work, the only thing that's wrong is the price if no one wants it.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

The funny part is i would actually love to work, given it’s actual work where I can see the fruits of my labor, i’m treated with respect and autonomy and my neurodivergency is considered, a shorter work week, and pays enough to survive without stressing. But apparently that’s asking too much