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"Their entire economy will just implode without our money. It will hurt but ultimately these tariffs are what needs to happen for us to rebuild our country."

Then he was telling me about how Bill Maher, this "super liberal Hollywood guy" met with trump, and how impressed he was, and how genuine trump was, and how Trump knew all about him, and oh my god guys trump is such a genuine guy. What you see is what you get, and he "actually cares about people". Even the liberals (everyone to the left of Bill fucking Maher I guess) see how great trump is.

Anyway I kinda hate my dad and I wish I could leave this hellhole.

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[–] [email protected] 47 points 2 months ago (3 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Turtle_and_the_Monkey

This fable has been on my mind today. A turtle and a monkey find a banana tree. The turtle says that they should plant the tree in the turtle's garden and they'll share the fruits. The selfish monkey thinks it can outsmart the turtle. They agree to cut the tree in half. The monkey takes the top half of the tree because fruits come from the top of a tree. The monkey plants the top half of the tree and the turtle plants the bottom half. Over time, the monkey's tree has wilted and the turtle's tree has grown back to be full and bearing fruits. In the end, the monkey steals bananas from the turtle and then the turtle kills the monkey as revenge.

The tariff war is kind of like cutting the banana tree in half. America thinks that they have the high ground because they think that value comes from money and America controls USD, but China has the better material circumstance because they have the manufacturing capabilities. China wants to share the fruits, but America is selfish. You can see where this going.

[–] [email protected] 44 points 2 months ago

In the end, the monkey steals bananas from the turtle and then the turtle kills the monkey as revenge.

mao-aggro-shining

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago

I've been consuming a lot of rednote content recently and this feels spot on for the proud/nationalist vibes on social media, not undeservedly so

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago

There's this Terry Pratchett novel where there's a revolt against the unpopular ruler of a city. The army secures the palace, the banks and other posh neighbourhoods. The rebels - who are mostly working-class and have a better idea of what actually matters - take over the markets, the industrial areas, the city gates (through which food comes in and goods go out) and so on.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Like the thing that's throwing me for a loop is that Trump still hasn't had to face any tangible consequences for anything, not the fucking with the stocks, not the blatant insider training, not the dismantlement of the administrative state. He's having the time of his corpulent little life over there and it turns out the president could do whatever the hell he wanted the whole time. I'm getting increasingly annoyed with all the people in the little pro-Trump alternate reality where it seems like everything is going exactly according to plan.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Their entire economy will just implode without our money

Lmao 3% of their GDP is attributable to the US.

What percentage of products in america is attributable to China though?

[–] [email protected] 22 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Lmao 3% of their GDP is attributable to the US

where is this number from, I see between 15 and 20% of Chinese exports go to the US, & US dollars are worth more than others. Like, China has actual competent people managing their economy and will weather whatever comes but this isn't going to be nothing

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

China's export of goods and services constituted nearly 19 percent of its GDP.

I see between 15 and 20% of Chinese exports go to the US,

0.19x0.15=0.0285

0.19x0.20=0.038

3% sounds about right

this isn't going to be nothing

this is true since so much of the rest of the economy is entwined without necessarily being direct US exports

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It's the figure from SCMP but they only say "official Chinese data", presumably because they don't want to link to a Chinese language source in their English language paper.

https://archive.is/EYUkD

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

they say "official chinese data" for the same reason others say "hamas run health agency": to activate the westoid "theyre lying!" neuron

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They would simply say "official data" if that were not true

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

"official" is to indicate that the data is certified by some authority. So the question of which authority is relevant. You trust some more than others, even if you trust china more than, say, france, that is a relevant piece of information.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago

3% isn't nothing, but I am curious where the number is from

[–] [email protected] 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Their entire economy will just implode without our money.

They have their own currency you dumbfuck boomer-ass chud what the shit are you even talking about?

Tell your dad a sentient jelly bean called him a donut brain. A pastery with a giant ass hole in the middle.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I'd like to tell him a lot of things, unfortunately I am both a coward and dependent.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Customer always wins because you know customer is king in the free market ... smuglord heh. We have all the money.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 months ago

Customer is king, but corporations are Jacobins.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 months ago

My God, imagine taking Bill Maher serious. He's like if Keith Olbermann hit super Saiyan levels of being high on his own supply.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I'm really curious how old your dad is -- but please don't answer if you shouldn't or if it might dox you.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 months ago

I've been meaning to look into lead poisoning and understanding it better madeline-sadeline but he is- definitely in that age range.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My sister is in that same 'generation' .. i'm not far behind I guess.. but its interesting to me because when she was in her teens and 20s she was super liberal and 'anarchy rules' and all that. But she kinda did the whole "when you grow up you'll become a conservative" thing.. not to the degree in which it happened with the boomers, but its definitely noticeable. I wonder if your dad did the same thing. I could probably see my sister thinking Maher is some sort of super liberal now.

I'm only a few years behind her but if anything I've gone further and further left as I get older. I was always "fuck the system" but for most of my life I didn't realize just how much the system needs to get fucked.