since this article recycles the state department lies about Uyghurs I have to post this
https://redsails.org/the-xinjiang-atrocity-propaganda-blitz/
this post was submitted on 12 Apr 2025
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If China knew how to deal with billionaires, Chinese billionaires wouldn't fucking exist.
You got a bunch of answers last thread, which you appear to have ignored. Go back to doing something about your own encroaching fascism
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"The most successful socialist nation in history isn't doing things exactly the way I, an ignorant western leftist, think are morally pure. Therefore they are evil!"
Brilliant take, sir.
I get your contempt, but there's a fair and lively discussion regarding Chinese socialism. Calling oneself socialist while dealing with Israel and while not struggling harder against the yoke of western Imperialism, is morally difficult. If it all ends up in socialism and China actually pulls through with Marxism, anti-imperialism and socialism, then maybe it will be worth it, but I don't see a problem with criticising the morally gray parts of Chinese socialism.
The issue is that you then play into anti-communist narratives if your critiques are as simple as "China should already be a 100% socialist economy or else it's not ruled by a socialist government". Westerners who level such base critiques often do not have the full understanding of history, let alone Chinese history, that got the world's largest communist party to this point. This is a simple case of western chauvanism ahistorically abusing the most progressive nations in the world for not measuring up to their grade of "progress" which has been used time and time again to attack those who've done the most to bring a better world.
I agree with you and hold hopes for the future in regards to China, and that this is often brandished in public opinion as an anticommunist argument. That said, mindful discussion of these moral standards (which other countries like the USSR or Cuba have generally observed) and the future we want from China is a good thing in my opinion within leftist spaces
I asked a genuine question on the last time this article was posted and was insulted and down voted. Your "take" contains more assumptions than my snarky comment on this post.
Brilliant... uh, take?
"I have depicted my snarky comment as the Chad wojak, and your snarky comment as the Soy wojak. I am victorious."
Real question: would you rather live in:
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a country with billionaires and a strong welfare state helping its citizens
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a country with billionaires and NO welfare state that lets its citizens suffer and die?
In this example, 1) is China, 2) is the USA. There is no third option, not at this point in human history. So tell me, which is better? 1 or 2?
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Some of them used to exist but then we're made to not exist, which I think is pretty fucking awesome
they're getting there
I genuinely hope so.
I think that's the goal.
I genuinely hope so, and want them to succeed.
Part of China geopolitical strategy is economically coupling with the West for the sake of tech transfer and making China indispensable to the West while it builds its productive forces from those tech transfers. Unfortunately, the bad side effect of this is that a billionaire class will inevitably form. The capitalist West won't exactly do business with you if you are still shouting Cultural Revolution era slogans.
But a lot of those Chinese billionaires are only billionaires on paper. They own assets that total over a billion dollars in net worth, but those businesses are completely controlled by the CPC and as soon as the "billionaire" tries to cash out, they get hit with restrictions on how they can cash out on top of massive fines that eat away the money they could get from selling off those businesses.
I suspect this is the game that the CPC is playing with these billionaires. It will eventually be like if you have a bank account with 1 billion dollars, but the bank charges a service fee of $999,999,999.99 if you try to transfer the money to another bank. It's plain to see that you don't actually have a billion dollars but just a single penny.
"You are the proud owner of a massive business worth billions, too bad every single major and minor business decision is dictated by us and you can't sell off the business because reasons. But you can be on Forbes list of billionaires."
Unfortunately, the bad side effect of this is that a billionaire class will inevitably form
hardly. you can tax your way out of that, require shares to be distrubuted among employees, maximum wages etc. China has billionaires because they don't value not having them enough to not have them for now.
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