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I have been on reddit for just about 12 years now. Something I've noticed over time is just how hateful the place has become. A complete outrage machine. Every single sub became filled with it. I've filtered so many subreddits over the last few years, it's insane. I don't know enough about this place to be sure, but I do hope it doesn't become the same type of echo chamber of anger.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (7 children)

Well, a lot of folks enjoy subs like TIFU, AITA. I think those subs are just people in first world countries posting their first world problems out in the open or I believe most of the stuff there is totally fake LOL. It's hilarious both way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I hope those outrage porn subs don't make their way here. If people want them it looks like Reddit will be open for a while longer. But I feel like it's too toxic to have on Lemmy.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago (9 children)

I don’t think it’ll happen. That’s why this will work, because the fediverse has controls for this. Say the folks over at another lemmy instance start hosting communities that are allowing hateful content, if you’re on lemmy.world you can count on the devs there to defederate that instance, and then it completely disappears from your view. It’s important to understand that you could still go directly over to the web portal for that instance and still see the content, but after they’ve been defederated, you’d have to a make an account on their server to interact with their content because all the reputable or safe instances will block them. So then it’s up to mods, like always. So if someone starts a community at lemmy.world then starts allowing hate speech in their community, I believe the devs at lemmy.world can simply nuke the whole community in one swipe, plus probably delete any accounts on lemmy.world that were engaging with the deleted community. I’m just learning so correct me if I’m wrong, but these sets of checks and balances seem to me to create an environment like a salty lake that will prevent certain things from growing, like the widespread douchebaggery that infested Reddit like a kudzu vine.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 years ago

I had to start sorting by controversial to find comments of interest in many threads since most the conversation was so generic and sanctimonious. That’s a big part of why this is a digg moment for me with reddit.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

The users of reddit in no way mirrored the real world. I consider myself an indepentant in real life, I vote based off of issues that are important to me, I get my news primarily from Reuters and the AP, but I found myself filtering out more and more subreddits as they became filled with hate.

Neutral sounding subreddits such as Politics and News became hate filled groups that attacked anyone right of the far left.

I've abstained from contributing to reddit for years due to this and hope Lemmy doesn't experience the same hate filled fall.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's why I used third party apps and RES. When I left, I had filtered hundreds possibly thousands of subreddits

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It is same thing on every social media platform. The reason why I deleted Facebook and Twitter because I was getting angry all the time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

Even on Lemmy, I've been seeing a bit of this. Like on the front page, for a day or two, there was that meme from LemmyShitpost about US incarceration rates titled "Happy Freedom Day... I Guess"

Come on, do people genuinely want to shit on a country on the day of it's independence that millions of people look forward to celebrating? Can they not keep their negativity and hate to themselves? Any comment that called out this circlejerk was just downvoted and was told that "Lemmy isn't the platform for you" and that Lemmy is only for "People that live in reality". Verbatim.

It's just saddening to see, and it reminds me why I just curate my subscription feed and never look at the general front page. Like yes, a collective outrage at the Reddit admin is what drove the spike in users as of late, but it feels different when you're shitting on other people and the things they're passionate about, for something undeserved.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 years ago

If you want to go way back, take a look at old BBSes or Usenet. The flame was commonly deployed. For many decades now people have used the internet to look at pictures of cats and also to talk trash or otherwise say horrible things. I don't think Reddit is different in any major way, except that on subs that were decently managed, many of the worst commenters were banned and the worst comments were often down voted into oblivion. It really did depend on the subreddit.

The fact that some people behave like assholes is not in itself anything indicative about a website working well or poorly. In real life some people behave like assholes some of the time too. Of course we have and should continue to take reasonable steps to deal with much of the badness, but we should never expect or aim for perfection on this front.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago

Can confirm, I've grown to really hate redditors over the past 13 years.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I started getting a 9gag vibe more and more.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think it was gradual, it was an active admin corps that tried to build balance with progressive Redditors by allowing Nazi thugs free rein to brigade, troll, and spread their hate.

Yes it patently and profoundly idiotic to try and counter empathy with Aryan Christofacism.

And so we find ourselves in the Fediverse and hoping it won't go the same way again.

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