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[–] [email protected] 49 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

incredible contributions to literature

limmy-what

who else could have come up with names like "Cho Chang" or thought of loading up banking goblins with antisemitic tropes

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or making the only Irish character a pyromanic, mere years after the end of The Troubles

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Or saying in an interview "the werewolves can be seen as an allegory for gay people and how they were treated during the AIDS epidemic", then making the leader of the werewolves in her next book a literal groomer who deliberately infects young boys with lycanthropy

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Or implementing chattel slavery into it, then making it institutionalized in such a way that 99% of the cast ridicules the only person that wanted to do anything about it

[–] [email protected] 48 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Transphobia aside (I can't believe I'm saying this) what contributions to literature? I'm not the most well read person, but even I know that everything JKR has written is drivel: racist, homophobic, antisemitic garbage that's as devoid of literary value as advertisement copy.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yeah it's ridiculous. She's terrible and her books are terrible.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It's ok to have never read any of the Harry Potter books

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago

I’m glad I never read any of them, or saw any of the movies, or played any HP games. I feel vindicated for having avoided that.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Even outside of reactionary garbage it's definitely not great literature

[–] [email protected] 24 points 6 months ago

It's not even good children's literature. Unfortunately these days seems most of it is terrible.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It’s mid for sure. Lots of better kids books out there in terms of both literary quality and entertainment. As a kid I read them (obligatory for any kid who read a lot in my generation) but there weren’t even in my top 10 book series.

I preferred Artemis Fowl, Lord of the Rings/The Hobbit, Series of Unfortunate Events, Bartimaeus Trilogy, Redwall series, Animorphs, Chronicles of Narnia, the Eragon series (not great literary quality but I still liked it), Ender’s Game series (good quality but another questionable crank author).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wasn't the author in like his teens when Eragon started? I haven't read passed the third book, and its been ages since even that, but I feel like younger authors can get a bit of slack, especially with an attempt at a fantasy epic.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Yes he was like 17. It gets a lot of hate because of its juvenile prose and derivative plot and setting, but it does the job at the end of the day of being enthralling to its target demographic.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think one could argue that the HP books got kids to read more but I don't know to what extent that's true, and that's still easily counteracted by all the harm she has done with the profits of her book sales. In terms of actually "contributions to literature", IIRC even most of her fans agree that everything after the third book is pretty shit.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I think one could argue that the HP books got kids to read more but I don't know to what extent that's true

What got kids into it was the international PR campaign for the Harry Potter series. This shit was marketed hard back in the day, and "Harry Potter gets kids to read books again!" was a core selling point in that.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I’ll admit it, they were fun books to read back when I was a young shithead. I’d wait for their release with bated breath.

I mean, yeah, dumb as fuck in retrospect especially considering all the insane things she’s said but they were the definition of easy read page turners for kids, like Boxcar children.

Wish I could say I was weaving through House of Leaves at the age of 10 but it’s not my fault, blame my parentsshrug-outta-hecks

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I really want to see a House of Leaves movie or TV series, but I don't know that it'd work. Part of that book's experience is the fourth wall breaks and how the text itself becomes another puzzle. It's almost like a graphic novel (literally) with how the words turn into images or how they're organized on the page. I think the closest I've seen to anyone else doing this is Vonnegut and comic books have played with fonts/typography for as long as they've been around.

You would have a hard time re-creating this effect visually. I think they could try doing something fuckery like Bandersnatch on Netflix that was an interactive movie. Like watching House of Leaves messes with your TV.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

I think they could try doing something fuckery like Bandersnatch on Netflix that was an interactive movie.

That would be reallh interesting. Or maybe a point and click video game would be a good format

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I think the whole “it got kids to read” marketing point was just based on sales data. People have been bemoaning each generation reading less and seeing Harry Potter’s numbers at the time probably gave the impression that it “saved” literature.

I still stand that the first three books were good and the series could have held up better if it maintained the same level of quality. Goblet of Fire is where it all goes to shit. Every single complaint about the series that I’ve seen from Cho Chang to the elves liking slavery is from Goblet of Fire and every book after that.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago

Third one is the one with the time travel, which creates a bunch of plotholes

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

I enjoyed them, they were the first big books I read. They did send me on the path of reading books, and it's not a one person thing, it's a very common story for people around 30.

So she did have an impact, whether it's because of ads or quality is a different story.

I would definitely not say she deserve a fucking statue though. The world of harry potter is not consistent, and any critical thinking ruins it completely (a reason why i couldn't watch the movies is that I got older). It's not very good, but it was nice to read as a kid.

And yeah, the other issues.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago

She made a lot of money for investors.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago (1 children)

They're gonna turn her into a statue?!?!?!

Like one of those monks?!?!?

Go for it! How long has she been eating the pine resin and stuff? We don't have to wait long do we?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago

Given that she's also a kook, I wouldn't doubt this is actually happening

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What show is the vampire one?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

I think it’s “Vampire Knight”