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Seriously though, the USA is virtually always bad.

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[–] [email protected] 137 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Remembering when the CIA set up a fake humanitarian vaccine program in Pakistan to steal DNA from people to find bin Laden. They didn't even actually fulfill the vaccine part, either.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jul/11/cia-fake-vaccinations-osama-bin-ladens-dna
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-cia-fake-vaccination-campaign-endangers-us-all/

[–] [email protected] 91 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Whoa there, better make sure we don't accidentally do some good here!

[–] [email protected] 76 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's so goddamn hilariously cartoonish.

How much more would it have cost to ACTUALLY vaccinate people at the same fucking time lmao?

They hate Pakistan so much they can't even bring themselves to do incidental good

[–] [email protected] 53 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was probably some rationale where actually vaccinating people would have meant involving other departments or some shit and they didn’t want to risk blowing their op. Basically the evil is baked into the system, it’s not some cartoon villain. IMO this is so much worse than some evil cia director who’s goal it is to fuck up pakistan.

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[–] [email protected] 64 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The fallout created an anti-vaxx movement and damage to real humanitarian programs there.

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[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

it's the Index fund of takes. Vulgar anti-americanism makes you right 90% of the time, which far outperforms all the "nuanced" liberal perspectives.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 2 years ago

90 is genuinely an undercount imo

[–] [email protected] 94 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (7 children)

"america bad" 514 comments

Federation moment

[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In true reddit fashion most are from one person 😂

[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Dude thinks he is leading a holy crusade against Tankies

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 2 years ago (284 children)

Name me a time when the US was intentionally and objectively good and don't include times it was repairing damage it did. I'll wait. Forever.

[–] [email protected] 83 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey, they entered WWII after they helped inspire, arm, and otherwise equip the Naz- wait.

Hey, they fought a Civil...War...against themselves...over slavery...

Hey, they...uh...killed a bunch of British soldiers in the 18th century?

I got nothing.

ed: LMAO I didn't even see the lib below me actually post fucking WWII and Ukraine

Slava Ukraini bois I got Stephen Bandera tattooed on my nutsack isn't he so cool

Fuck off

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 years ago (8 children)

I am almost crying the idiocy is literally just from one fucking guy its driving me nuts mods please we are begging you

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[–] [email protected] 73 points 2 years ago (4 children)

you'll know you have the correct opinions when libs start calling you a tankie online

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 years ago (1 children)

how the fuck are there 450 comments on this obviously correct meme lol

Death to America

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[–] [email protected] 63 points 2 years ago (42 children)

My new thing is just telling people I don't like countries that regularly bomb hospitals. It's 50/50 on people then defending the US even harder.

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[–] [email protected] 62 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Usually the way NATOists and liberals put it is "'America Bad' is not an ideology / political philosophy", and it's like okay, it's still fucking true though. What am I supposed to do with a true statement if not believe it? And what am I supposed to do with that belief if not let it inform my broader ideology, especially when it relates to the country I live in, which also happens to be the current global hegemon?

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (5 children)

The concept of “America” also extends to its loyal lapdog, Canada.

kkkanada

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wow. I'm just now seeing that one courageous lib just took on every user of Hexbear. There are rumors it might be Aaron Sorkin.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I wish everyone a very America Bad

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

358 comments in 6hours wtf happened here?

EDIT: Incredible thread.

[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (11 children)

just some garden variety reddit-style seething about the rising semi-periphery (BRICS) and how imperial core proletarians should be good social fascists and "critically support" the current NATO imperialist hegemony against the rising semi-periphery because umm history ended in 1991 and then russia restarted it to be mean or something, also ignore ICE camps and the war on terror, china is genociding muslims (source: zenz)

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (10 children)

5 hour old post

300 comments

Good LORD what is happening in there.

EDIT: now 8 hours, 454 comments. sweat

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[–] [email protected] 56 points 2 years ago

You will be in the moral right 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% of time if your position is USA bad for all of geopolotics

[–] [email protected] 55 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Oh no. A couple libs have found this 🤢

[–] [email protected] 78 points 2 years ago (6 children)

This is how I found out we federated with sh.itjust.works. kombucha-disgust

[–] [email protected] 58 points 2 years ago (6 children)

They're not sending their best

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 2 years ago

I'M GEARED UP AND READY TO START SCROLLING

sicko-hazmat hitler-detector

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[–] [email protected] 54 points 2 years ago

As a rule of thumb, if America is doing it, it's bad. If America is decrying someone for doing it, America is doing it with factory-like efficiency.

The only way to stop a bad guy with a state is a good guy with a state

[–] [email protected] 52 points 2 years ago

"gosh, all these rude liberals keep brigaiding our threads smdh my dick head"

[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 years ago (2 children)

If you don't want to spend a big chunk of time reading all about a country you've barely even thought of (looking at you, Gabon. I'm sorry I know this reflects on me), "America bad" will usually get you to the correct take anyways. The seat of global capital has habits.

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (6 children)

Absolutely, how can it possibly matter whether any given communist is specifically an anarchist or ML or whatever when the US is the global hegemon? People who believe in any of these ideologies trying to enact radical change are going to get crushed under the United States' boot all the same.

Taking down the US is a prerequisite for coming anywhere close to communism, it's not possible otherwise. Therefore left unity with the number one goal of weakening the US should be our highest priority. Russia losing the Ukraine proxy war will not make the lives of Russian LGBT people better. Nor will it make it any easier for leftists to take back control of the country. But Russia winning the Ukraine proxy war will certainly hurt the ability of the US and NATO to suppress leftist movements outside the imperial core.

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