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[–] [email protected] 39 points 7 months ago (3 children)

A few years back there was some big economics study that supposedly proved that countries whose governments “stayed out of” the market had better metrics or some such neoliberal thing. Except a grad student figured out it was all bunk because he looked at the supporting documents and saw that the formula they used in Excel to find that claim missed like a third of the rows of the data and once the formula was extended all the way down, it produced an opposite conclusion.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 7 months ago (1 children)

There's also this massive 2010 paper called "Growth in a Time of Debt" that was used by the EU to justify austerity measures in Greece and elsewhere. The paper claimed that countries with debt ratios above 90 per cent of GDP suffer a yearly 0.1 per cent contraction in their economies, so therefore you have to reduce debt ratios to below 90% so GDP can grow again. Was cited everywhere, a massive impact on the real world, one of the pillars of austerity.

Turns out this is completely wrong because their sum in Excel was "accidentally" missing a few countries and instead when they corrected that Excel issue turns out "that countries with the quoted debt ratio grew 2.2 per cent, only 1 per cent less than nations with lower debt ratios."

Per: https://voxeurop.eu/en/austerity-measures-in-europe-are-due-to-an-excel-error/

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

Yeah that was the one I was thinking of, just didn’t remember all the details correctly.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Sounds interesting, do you have a source? I couldn’t immediately find it.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here’s an article on the error. I had the orientation wrong though, it was columns that were omitted.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

Thanks! It’s an interesting read.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago

As a former grad student, you both dive into enough papers to see that a lot of the supporting evidence is bullshit in some way, and then when you write your own you hope nobody does that to you lol (I would never do this for a published paper though).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

When I worked at a university, couple of our courses were under scrutiny because too many people were failing them (they weren't difficult courses, just annoying, the university was mad because they were missing out on some money)

I threw a couple new variables in my rating excel and you'd have to kill someone in the computer lab to fail my portion of the course

Oh you wanted competent workers? Man that sucks

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

anytime i see this pic i like to think marx is grabbing for the gat

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I'm so glad that my college days of having to use Ms word are over, I can finally use TeX and my favorite editor if I ever need to produce papers. Gone are the days of annoying as shit markup, hooray